Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Dennis C.
Bob, If the coupling is fairly accessible, it's not a big deal.  My coupling have a very visible white mark on it for when the blades are horizontal (pivot pin vertical).  I marked it when the boat was hauled.  I jump down into the cockpit locker, the helms person puts the tranny in neutral, I

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread Jake Brodersen
Bob, FWIW, I paid $1500 to have my 35-3 soda blasted. Worth every penny!!! Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hickson Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Bob Moriarty
So, if the shaft does not get locked in a position with the folded blades vertically aligned (the proper orientation) it's possible for the lower blade to "droop" and create some drag in low hull speed conditions. Worst case would have the shaft locked with the blades aligned horizontally. However,

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Chuck S
We have a two blade MaxProp which rotates easily on it's own. I lock the tranny in reverse and then crew allign the mark on the coupling with a mark on the tranny so the blades are vertical for least resistance. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - Fro

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Chuck S
Yanmar warning: A friend of mine has a Beneteau w Yanmar and fixed prop. He follows the Yanmar directive and says the prop spins when sailing w is very annoying. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Jack Brennan" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sen

Stus-List Martec folding prop availble.......from a C&C 38MKII

2012-09-06 Thread Ron Casciato
In excellent condition and documented service by H&H. Photos and specs available let me know Ron Casciato -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob Moriarty Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:23 PM To: cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread dwight veinot
Thanks Neil I knew high pressure water would do the trick but I did not think a household unit would give enough pressure.you must get close to 3000 psi with yours and the turbo nozzle would help.still there is a lot of water run off and maybe spray to nearby boats to consider Dwight Veinot C

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread schiller
The last time that I stripped the bottom to the barrier coat I used my household pressure washer and a "Turbo" nozzle. It removed the Micron CSC in a very well defined and complete fashion. Very little post preparation was required before I put on the new Micron CSC. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwi

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread Dennis C.
Bob, Can you rent a soda blaster in your area? I looked at buying one from Harbor Freight a couple years ago. Can't recall any details but I considered doing myself. I know the yard where I haul out in Pensacola does a lot of soda blasting. Sounds like a good way to go. Dennis C. Sent fro

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Dennis C.
Been doing it like this for 20 years. E Ben for beer can races. Currently at boat listening to chainsaws clearing Isaac's impact. Hope "son of Isaac" doesn't regenerate and finish what Dad started. Shouldn't they name it Esau or Jacob instead of Nadine? Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville,

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Martin DeYoung
The type of prop and reduction gear (transmission) makes a difference between sailing in gear or not. A fixed prop will often cause the shaft to spin resulting in damage from lack of lubricant. Some boats have a shaft brake installed. A folding prop will rarely cause the shaft to spin. A feat

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Martin DeYoung
>> I hope this was before the sails were raised... Depends on how popular the crew was. Mostly it was off the Pt Fermin starting area for Transpac. Light winds, choppy water. Starting a 2 weeks sail already covered in salt water... priceless. Martin -Original Message- From: cnc-list-

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Martin DeYoung
Here in the PNW the water is rarely above 50F so volunteers are hard to come by. Martin From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:24 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-Li

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Wally Bryant
You wrote: Just before starting an offshore race (Transpac, Vic Maui, etc.) on a boat with a folding prop someone was volunteered to dive over and place rubber bands on the prop to prevent it from dragging a blade. I hope this was before the sails were raised... _

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Pat Nevitt
No, I meant horizontal. If the two blades were vertical (up & down) then the lower one could potentially come down, but that shouldn't happen with a geared prop. When horizontal (blades aligned right and left of the shaft) you eliminate most of the possibility of that happening. On Thu, Sep 6, 2

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread dwight veinot
Bob I was not recommending you use high pressure water; just pointing out that high pressure water can be used to strip paint in response to another lister who said pressure washing would not do the job.which is true for most household pressure washers that develop around 2000 psi and those pow

Stus-List 2012 C & C Rendezvous Dockage Update

2012-09-06 Thread David Risch
All, I am sending this to the whole list (forgive me) and blind copied those who have signed up and provided e-mail address' on the Rendezvous website and the Mystic Seaport Dock-master to make sure I cover all bases. For those who need the Rendezvous Website address: http://www.cnc

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread jim aridas
Doesn't everyone do this even for beer can racing ? > From: mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 17:05:46 + > Subject: Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation > > >> This sounds like a pain, especially singlehanded. << > > Just before starting an o

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Rich Knowles
Just read the advisory note. Interesting. Other transmissions don't like the shaft turning when the engine is off as the tx oil pump runs off the input shaft and lubrication stops when the engine stops. Rich Rßdë On 2012-09-06, at 13:05, Joel Aronson wrote: With a fixed prop you are putting

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Martin DeYoung
>> This sounds like a pain, especially singlehanded. << Just before starting an offshore race (Transpac, Vic Maui, etc.) on a boat with a folding prop someone was volunteered to dive over and place rubber bands on the prop to prevent it from dragging a blade. The rubber bands were light enough

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread Joel Aronson
Bob, For a point of reference, I paid $1700 to have my 35/3 soda blasted. I've only stripped varnish, so I can't help you there. Have you searched Sailnet? Joel On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Bob Hickson wrote: > Thanks to everyone for your feedback / suggestions. > > ** ** > > I do no

Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread Bob Hickson
Thanks to everyone for your feedback / suggestions. I do not think that a pressure wash (high pressure) will work well on antifouling without damage to the gel coat. My boats have always been pressure washed in the fall by the yard after haul out and this certainly does not remove the bottom p

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Jack Brennan
This is what Yanmar supposedly says on the issue of engaging the gears while sailing. You’ll find references to this all over the web, but I was not able to find it on the Yanmar web site. Advisory Number: MSA08-003: DATE February 8, 2008 Dealers and OEMs TO: All Marine Distributors SUBJECT: Ge

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread jim aridas
Don't you mean vertical? Otherwise one blade will be hanging down in light air.JimMartec folding on a 34' CB > From: gnylan...@atlanticbb.net > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:31:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation > > Logically, if you are in l

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Joel Aronson
Didn't realize you were putting it in reverse, but as I said, it is less of an issue with a folding prop because there should be no drag and no twist. Here is a link to the service bulliten: http://www.seawindcats.com/system/files/f14/o1024//YMTQTB11-017%20cotrol%20lever%20position%20during%20sail

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Pat Nevitt
Joel, I was always taught that putting it in reverse after ensuring the shaft was in the proper position essentially locked the shaft in that position and ensured the blades remained where you wanted them. The idea is that preferably when the boat is on the hard, you set the prop so that the blad

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Joel Aronson
With a fixed prop you are putting pressure on the bearings to turn the shaft the other way. I would think that you are also increasing drag. Didn't seem like a big deal to me until I found out it voids the warranty. Either Yanmar is looking to reduce warranty liability or there is really somethin

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Rich Knowles
Why can you not sail with the gear box in reverse? I e done that for years to keep the shaft from spinning when underway and trashing the bearings in the tx. Rich On 2012-09-06, at 12:38, Joel Aronson wrote: My Martec will vibrate if it is not in the right position. I put the gearbox into

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Bill Potterton
The growth on my prop in the Bay will cause vibration and has made it difficult to fold on its own even though I clean it every week. Bill 35/3 On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Bill Connon wrote: > Joel Aronson wrote: > >> My Martec will vibrate if it is not in the right position. I put the >>

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Joel Aronson
Bill It wears out the transmission because it will force the shaft to rotate, and it also voids a Yanmar warranty (like any of us have one). Joel On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Bill Connon wrote: > Joel Aronson wrote: > >> My Martec will vibrate if it is not in the right position. I put the

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Bill Connon
Joel Aronson wrote: My Martec will vibrate if it is not in the right position. I put the gearbox into reverse for a second or two and the vibration stops. I assume it is in the feathered position. (Don't sail with the gearbox in reverse.) Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis Joel, What are

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Joel Aronson
My Martec will vibrate if it is not in the right position. I put the gearbox into reverse for a second or two and the vibration stops. I assume it is in the feathered position. (Don't sail with the gearbox in reverse.) Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Gary Nylan

Re: Stus-List Martec Folding Prop Operation

2012-09-06 Thread Gary Nylander
Logically, if you are in light wind conditions, the drag of a droopy blade could be a consideration. If you align the prop so the blades are in a horizontal position, it should fold back and reduce drag, but If you race on SF Bay, no problem, the prop will fold in that 20 knots. That is on

Stus-List Antifouling removal

2012-09-06 Thread Helen Abbott
Gary: Don't know if you are familiar with 'dry ice blasting', but with this method, there is no 'toxic runoff'. The only residue with the removal of antifouling paint is the 'actual antifouling paint' which can be contained with a 'drop sheet'. When I had my done, we picked a day with very

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread dwight veinot
Chuck Up here in the far north I use Amercoat ABC 4 antifouling paint, it is much less expensive the Micron CSC and I apply only one very thin coat before launch every spring (I thin it with varsol). Takes about 2 liters of paint on my 35 MKII, so a can does me 2 years. I have used a roller and l

Re: Stus-List Antifouling removal - chemical strippers

2012-09-06 Thread Chuck S
If I to remove bottom paint to gel coat again, I'd hire a contractor. I was between job opportunities when I did my bottom. I had to remove Pettit ablative and Baltoplate, a hard racing paint. I tried stripper to no avail. They need the ambient to be above 75 degrees and I did this during winte