Re: Stus-List C&C 34: baby stay deck hardware

John and any 33-II folks out there; I was told once that the 33-II is a derivative of the 34; if so, would the setting and trim you outline for the 34 transfer to the 33-II? I'm guessing that even if they are not linked from the design standpoint, the rigs must be reasonably similar for trimming

Re: Stus-List Stuck screw, PHRF

The Easy Out overcame the Henry Ford! Mission accompished! Joel Sent from my iPad On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Colin Kilgour wrote: > "Blame Henry Ford" - Nice. > > Note to self: Never underestimate the importance of packaging. > > Cheers > Colin > > > On 8/4/12, Gosse, Rob wrote: >> Blame Hen

Re: Stus-List Stuck screw, PHRF

"Blame Henry Ford" - Nice. Note to self: Never underestimate the importance of packaging. Cheers Colin On 8/4/12, Gosse, Rob wrote: > Blame Henry Ford. > > On 2012-08-04, at 12:25 PM, "Steve Thomas" wrote: > >> >> One other thing you can do to get a more positive engagement when dealing >> wi

Re: Stus-List C&C 34: baby stay deck hardware

For the 34 the babystay is a critical component of mast and sail trim when going upwind. All you have to do is lay on the deck and sight up the mast with no babystay and watch the mast pump away which wrecks havoc on the mainsail trim / shape. We play the babystay in concert with main cunningham,

Re: Stus-List check stays

The baby stay on the 35-3 does a great job of flattening the main. I haven't needed it to stop any pumping downwind, so it gets loosened with the other settings at the top mark, so no issue with the pole. It stays sort of tensioned when cruising, so no pain at all. I only wish I could loosen

Re: Stus-List check stays

Calypso has a baby stay (hydraulic cylinder) to prevent mast pumping when the sea gets her knickers in a twist. The mast is likely the same section as the C&C 61's have, a real stump so I do not expect inducing bend was the original plan nor possible. Many years back a prior owner removed the

Re: Stus-List check stays

Sailing a boat, especially cruising, is IMHO a PITA if that boat has checkstays, running backs or a baby stay...for all that extra rigging the boat should sail like a rocket...yet when you compare based on PHRF and actual speed on the water, many of the 1980's vintage boats of comparable size with

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shrouds and Speaders

Aaron Get your mast straight side to side with little to no tension on the backstay. You can use your main halyard to do that. Then start adjusting the upper shrouds, 2 full turns on the turn buckle each side after which measure the tension with your Loos gage...I assume you have the right gage f

Re: Stus-List C&C 35-II in Charlottetown PEI

Today I was walking the dock at CYC at Charlottetown and lo and behold saw a FLOATING C&C 35-II (mine has been drydocked since October 2006)! Wow, does she belong to a lister? ALEX GIANNELIA Phone (416) 203-9858 Fax (416) 203-9843 Cell (416) 529-0070 email: a...@airsensing.com WE

Re: Stus-List check stays

Maybe someone added them. I've got hull 11, and no check stays. -- Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 Joel Aronson wrote: Awesome! I don't need more lines. I have hull 14, so maybe they dropped them on later boats. Joel 35/3 On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Jake Brodersen

Re: Stus-List check stays

Our 34R has runners and checkstays and as Eric said, they are used after backstay is on to firm up the mast, or pull it straight to put more belly in the main. They do a great job for a bendy mast. Feel lucky if you don't have them. They are an extra pain in the ass, you don't need. Our tripple

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shrouds and Speaders

You are right Aaron. The shrouds are way too loose. There is a wonderful explanation of tuning a rig on the Selden website. (It doesn't require a Loos gage.) Only a 6 ft folding metric rule, which I found at HomeDepot. I use their method and like the results. Be sure to read it, and lube all

Re: Stus-List check stays

I have what look like tang connection points just below the top spreaders. I presumed they were for checkstays (possibly for a staysail??), but I've never seen any evidence they were installed. Tim Mojito 35/3 (1984) On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Awesome! I don't need m

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

Or support your local canvas maker and have one made to match your boat colors for ~ 1 boat buck (or less).   Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C&C 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: HONEYSAIL To: cnc-list Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

I agree totally In a message dated 8/6/2012 1:18:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, joel.aron...@gmail.com writes: Jack, I agree with you. Just saying they shouldn't be selling unsafe safety equipment at any price. Joel On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:12 PM, <_HONEYSAIL@aol.com_ (mailto:h

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

Jack, I agree with you. Just saying they shouldn't be selling unsafe safety equipment at any price. Joel On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:12 PM, wrote: > ** > I am firm believer that you get only what you pay for and after 10 years > of use I have my money back, but hey the choice is yours to make. I

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

I am firm believer that you get only what you pay for and after 10 years of use I have my money back, but hey the choice is yours to make. I simply stated what I did for my safety and the safety of my crew. No sun rot issues and the tag line is mounted to the stern rail however & did replace

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shrouds and Speaders

Aaron, Yes they look loose, but not horribly so (to me). I wonder if the spreaders would have been more stable with the main up and a load aft? Assuming the mast is straight, I't take a few turns on each shroud and go for another sail. I don't know if the spreaders are on pins and are meant to

Re: Stus-List Stuck screw, PHRF

You would have been in good company at the gov cup: Dogwood Bark Beyond the Sea Atlantis Impromptu Serefe Widowmaker Silent Thunder all of the "older" generation of C&Cs, along with the "newer" generation: Coyote Caribean Magic ReJoyce Rag Trade ...And I'm sure others -Keith -Original

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

The FG case costs mote than the whole unit! If they are going to sell a product that is going to be attached to a rail, it should come in a case that won't disintegrate in the sun. It would be like buying a life jacket that wasn't supposed to be used in water! You could buy a yard of Sunbrella

Re: Stus-List check stays

Awesome! I don't need more lines. I have hull 14, so maybe they dropped them on later boats. Joel 35/3 On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote: > Check stays??? Not on any of the 35-3's I've ever seen. This mast doesn't > need that kind of support. > > Jake > > > Jake Brodersen

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

Just bite the bullet and buy the fiberglass LS canister. My is 10 years old and still looks great. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY C&C 39 TM In a message dated 8/6/2012 12:42:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, paradigmat...@gmail.com writes: Our "new" Lifesling bag is devolving into a bunch of string

Re: Stus-List check stays

Check stays??? Not on any of the 35-3's I've ever seen. This mast doesn't need that kind of support. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Morgenstern

Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shrouds and Speaders

Hello Gurus, I own a 1979 C&C 30 MK1 and I noticed my shroud are pretty loose. I have a taken a video of them on a recent sail which can be viewed below. It’s a breezy day on the bay. 15+ and gusts up to 25+. I was sailing with only a reefed jib and main down. There were 3 to 4 foot waves. As you

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

Our "new" Lifesling bag is devolving into a bunch of strings held together with bits of crunchy plastic. The replacement bags suck. You'd think you could buy a decent Sunbrella bag for the price. At least, as Joe says, the Lifesling line is attached to a strong point, not the bag itself. On 6 Au

Re: Stus-List C&C 34: baby stay deck hardware

On our 34 (single spreader rig), we only have the baby stay on if we are going to be racing / sailing in chop. It's needed with the in-line spreaders to keep the rig from pumping. We also use it if it's breezy to maintain bend in the mast. We do end for end gybes, so it's not in the way. If we d

Re: Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

Wow - that is awful!! The Lifesling bag isn't a ton better, but at least they feed the line out of the bag and you get to tie it on securely without relying on the bag! OTOH the Lifesling poly-pro "ski line" will meld itself into a mass that will not untangle. I replaced mine with floating d

Stus-List a $40 life sling? Follow up, it's not!

Hi, You may recall the discussion on the list back in February regarding the new Revere RescueMax. I was initially pleased with the device, but discover a major manufacturing DEFECT with it this weekend. I purchased the RescueMax in February, but did not install it on my stern rail until the

Re: Stus-List C&C 34: baby stay deck hardware

I use the pole infrequently, so the baby stay is always rigged unless I'm using the pole. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Jake Brodersen wrote: > > The baby stay does get in the way when using the pole. Fortunately, we > only > use the baby stay in higher wind sp

Re: Stus-List C&C 34: baby stay deck hardware

The baby stay does get in the way when using the pole. Fortunately, we only use the baby stay in higher wind speeds. The rest of the time it's tied to the mat with a bungee. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc

Re: Stus-List check stays

You have check stays? Does any other 35-3 have them? I don't. -Keith -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 17:16 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List check stays Speaking of hardware of questionable value - the ca

Re: Stus-List Stuck screw, PHRF

I Keith Good question! Would have loved to do the Governor's Cup this past weekend (60 mile overnight race from Annapolis to St Mary's). I need to pick up a current edition of Spinsheet- the Annapolis sailing rag - or go to their website. Joel On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Morgenstern, Keith

Re: Stus-List Stuck screw, PHRF

So now that you have a PHRF cert...what race are you doing? :) -Keith -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 9:25 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Stuck screw, PHRF I'm trying to remove the set screw on the ext

Re: Stus-List Life is good

I was stationed at NAS Pensacola 3 times during my Navy career. If you love watersports, it's hard to imagine a nicer spot. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > Great weekend on the boat. Sailed down Pensacola Bay Saturday to ICW then > motored westbound to The Wharf Marina at Ora