Calypso has a baby stay (hydraulic cylinder) to prevent mast pumping when the sea gets her knickers in a twist. The mast is likely the same section as the C&C 61's have, a real stump so I do not expect inducing bend was the original plan nor possible. Many years back a prior owner removed the aft lower shrouds to allow the boom to extend as far forward as possible. The use of the baby stay became more important once these aft lowers were removed (even downwind in all but light conditions).
If I wanted to completely remove the baby stay for simpler sailing I would add back the aft lower shrouds and put in place a set of forward lower shrouds. IIRC Brian Toss's rigging handbook lists the aft and forward lowers as having some of the higher rig loads. In case you are considering a downwind offshore passage and want to gybe without fooling around with the baby stay use a set of removable "chicken stays". Used often on Transpac and Vic-Maui boats these stays go forward from the mast (mid-spin pole track height) to the toe (holey) rail well forward. The pole can be gybed without removing the chicken stays and if the boat suffers a leeward broach the extra pole loading will not push the mast out of column. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle ________________________________ From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 2:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List check stays Sailing a boat, especially cruising, is IMHO a PITA if that boat has checkstays, running backs or a baby stay...for all that extra rigging the boat should sail like a rocket...yet when you compare based on PHRF and actual speed on the water, many of the 1980's vintage boats of comparable size with such complicated rigs are barely faster than the old 35 MKI's and II's...makes one wonder, why they bothered to change On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> wrote: Our 34R has runners and checkstays and as Eric said, they are used after backstay is on to firm up the mast, or pull it straight to put more belly in the main. They do a great job for a bendy mast. Feel lucky if you don't have them. They are an extra pain in the ass, you don't need. Our tripple spreader bendy masts need them, because the mast section is smaller and bends more than a conventional two spreader mast section. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ________________________________ From: "Tim Goodyear" <timg...@gmail.com<mailto:timg...@gmail.com>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 3:49:34 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List check stays I have what look like tang connection points just below the top spreaders. I presumed they were for checkstays (possibly for a staysail??), but I've never seen any evidence they were installed. Tim Mojito 35/3 (1984) On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>> wrote: Awesome! I don't need more lines. I have hull 14, so maybe they dropped them on later boats. Joel 35/3 On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net<mailto:captain_j...@cox.net>> wrote: Check stays??? Not on any of the 35-3's I've ever seen. This mast doesn't need that kind of support. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List check stays You have check stays? Does any other 35-3 have them? I don't. -Keith -----Original Message----- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 17:16 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List check stays Speaking of hardware of questionable value - the cars for my check stays are missing whatever was in the hole behind the U shaped ring. Are the check stays only used on the windward side with the spinnaker? Was there a ring where the hole is in the car that attached to a control line? How strong does that control l have to be? Joel Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> -- Joel 301 541 8551<tel:301%20541%208551> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
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