RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-07 Thread Kevin Kluge
+1 (binding) > -Original Message- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:30 AM > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: [VOTE] Project Bylaws > > Hi all, > > We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over th

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-07 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Chip Childers wrote: > Hi all, > > We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over the last > couple of weeks [1], so I'd like to move this forward to a VOTE now. > Of course, if there are still concerns or discussion points that > people want to see ad

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-07 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, Chip Childers wrote: >> >> >> 3.4.1. Technical Decisions >> >> Technical decisions should normally be made by the entire community >> using consensus >> gathering, and not through formal voting. >> >> Technical d

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, Chip Childers wrote: > > > 3.4.1. Technical Decisions > > Technical decisions should normally be made by the entire community > using consensus > gathering, and not through formal voting. > > Technical decisions must be made on a project development mailing list. > >

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
+1 (binding) On 1/3/13 10:53 AM, "Sudha Ponnaganti" wrote: >+1 (binding) > >-Original Message- >From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] >Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:30 AM >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >Subject: [VOTE] Project Bylaws > >Hi all, > >We've h

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread David Nalley
> > Actually, that section doesn't deal with the question that Rohit > raised really. He's asking about the result of challenging a veto, > which is only addressed in the following: > > "The validity of a veto, if challenged, can be confirmed by anyone who > has a binding vote. This does not neces

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Chip Childers > wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:52 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Chip Childers >>> wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On T

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:52 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Chip Childers >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM, David Nalley wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > O

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Sebastien Goasguen
On Jan 3, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chip Childers >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: +1 (binding) Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. >>

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:52 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Chip Childers > wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chip Childers >>> wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > +1 (b

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chip Childers >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: +1 (binding) Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. >

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chip Childers > wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: >>> +1 (binding) >>> Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. >>> >> 3. Veteos > Who can Veto? Timeframe when a veto is c

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: >> +1 (binding) >> Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. >> > 3. Veteos Who can Veto? Timeframe when a veto is challenged? >>> >>> The "who" is anyone that can cast a bind

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > +1 (binding) > Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. > 3. Veteos >>> Who can Veto? Timeframe when a veto is challenged? >>> >> >> The "who" is anyone that can cast a binding vote on an issue. >> Further, veto's are only applicable for

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 01:37:03AM +0530, Alex Huang wrote: >> > > The question was if someone challenges a vote by committing a binding >> > veto -1, and if their veto is challenged (say the reasons were not obvious) >> > and they are as

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Prasanna Santhanam
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 01:37:03AM +0530, Alex Huang wrote: > > > The question was if someone challenges a vote by committing a binding > > veto -1, and if their veto is challenged (say the reasons were not obvious) > > and they are asked for reason(s) what should be the timeline for the person > >

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Alex Huang
> > The question was if someone challenges a vote by committing a binding > veto -1, and if their veto is challenged (say the reasons were not obvious) > and they are asked for reason(s) what should be the timeline for the person > to reply/communicate. (say a case of someone trolling, the question

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > +1 (binding) > Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. > 3. Veteos >>> Who can Veto? Timeframe when a veto is challenged? >>> >> >> The "who" is anyone that can cast a binding vote on an issue. >> Further, veto's are only applicable for

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Rohit Yadav
+1 (binding) Thanks for the reply, casting binding vote. >>> 3. Veteos >> Who can Veto? Timeframe when a veto is challenged? >> > > The "who" is anyone that can cast a binding vote on an issue. > Further, veto's are only applicable for "lazy consensus" style formal > votes or technical decisions

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > +1 > > Some comments: > >>2.4.1.2. Deciding what is distributed as products of the Apache CloudStack > project. >>2.4.1.1. Fostering, supporting and growing the project's community. >>2.4.1.4. Speaking on behalf of the project. > > Should commit

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Sudha Ponnaganti
+1 (binding) -Original Message- From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:30 AM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Project Bylaws Hi all, We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over the last couple of

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Rohit Yadav
+1 Some comments: >2.4.1.2. Deciding what is distributed as products of the Apache CloudStack project. >2.4.1.1. Fostering, supporting and growing the project's community. >2.4.1.4. Speaking on behalf of the project. Should committers also participate in the above? >3. Veteos Who can Veto? Time

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Marcus Sorensen
+1 (binding) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Prasanna Santhanam < prasanna.santha...@citrix.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:29:45AM -0500, Chip Childers wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over the last > > couple of weeks [1], so I'd like

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Prasanna Santhanam
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:29:45AM -0500, Chip Childers wrote: > Hi all, > > We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over the last > couple of weeks [1], so I'd like to move this forward to a VOTE now. > Of course, if there are still concerns or discussion points that > people want

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Jason Bausewein
+1 (binding) -Original Message- From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:30 AM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Project Bylaws Hi all, We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over the last couple of

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > On 01/02/2013 09:52 PM, Chip Childers wrote: >> >> One quick follow up. >> >> If we approve the bylaw draft, I'll publish it to the website. >> However, the document comes from the perspective of CloudStack being a >> top level project (g

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Chip Childers
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Alex Huang wrote: > +1 binding > > There's a copy of your second draft here. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Bylaw+-+Draft > > --Alex Thanks Alex. I've updated it to reflect the latest version (the one we're voting on now). I was origin

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Wido den Hollander
On 01/02/2013 09:52 PM, Chip Childers wrote: One quick follow up. If we approve the bylaw draft, I'll publish it to the website. However, the document comes from the perspective of CloudStack being a top level project (graduated from the incubator). I'd likely include a header note indicating t

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-03 Thread Hugo Trippaers
+1 (binding) Nice job Chip! > -Original Message- > From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.batt...@citrix.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:05 AM > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws > > +1 binding > > -O

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread Rajesh Battala
+1 binding -Original Message- From: Will Chan [mailto:will.c...@citrix.com] Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:44 AM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws +1 (binding) From: Alex Huang [alex.hu...@citrix.com

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread Will Chan
+1 (binding) From: Alex Huang [alex.hu...@citrix.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:36 PM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws +1 binding There's a copy of your second draft here. https://cwiki.apach

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread Alex Huang
o: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws > > One quick follow up. > > If we approve the bylaw draft, I'll publish it to the website. > However, the document comes from the perspective of CloudStack being a > top level project (graduated from the incu

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:29:45AM -0500, Chip Childers wrote: > I'd like to propose that the Apache CloudStack Project Bylaws > (included at the bottom of this email message) be adopted by the > community. +1 (binding) Thanks for taking lead on this. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier http://dissocia

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread John Kinsella
I was gonna comment, but figured that's where ya were going. On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > One quick follow up. > > If we approve the bylaw draft, I'll publish it to the website. > However, the document comes from the perspective of CloudStack being a > top level project

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread Chip Childers
One quick follow up. If we approve the bylaw draft, I'll publish it to the website. However, the document comes from the perspective of CloudStack being a top level project (graduated from the incubator). I'd likely include a header note indicating this issue. My preference is to approach the pr

RE: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread Kelcey Damage (BT)
+1 -kd >-Original Message- >From: John Kinsella [mailto:j...@stratosec.co] >Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 12:05 PM >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >Subject: Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws > >+1 > >On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Chip Childers >wrote

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread John Kinsella
+1 On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Chip Childers wrote: > Hi all, > > We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over the last > couple of weeks [1], so I'd like to move this forward to a VOTE now. > Of course, if there are still concerns or discussion points that > people want to see a

Re: [VOTE] Project Bylaws

2013-01-02 Thread Sebastien Goasguen
+1 -sebastien On Jan 2, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > Hi all, > > We've had some good discussions on the proposed bylaws over the last > couple of weeks [1], so I'd like to move this forward to a VOTE now. > Of course, if there are still concerns or discussion points that > people w