On Jun 26, 2:40 pm, Raoul Duke wrote:
> > We are hiring; but do you live in Mumbai, India? :)
>
> no, but i do know some folks around there (although they are all happy
> where they are, as far as i know). do you allow telecommuting from
> usa? ;-)
>
> best of luck with the venture.
I'm looking
On Jun 25, 12:59 am, Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
> Their concerns are thus:
>
> 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint hearted.
You advertise for programmers and include Clojure, Lisp, Java, and
functional programming on the roster of desirable skills. Lisp hackers
wa
On Jun 24, 11:38 pm, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> I'd reply that you can always fall back to Java for time-critical
> stuff.
Is this really relevant? You may fall back to Java for some of your
procedure implementations, but your data structures that they need to
work on would be the dynamically typ
On 26/06/2009, at 8:55 PM, Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
> Well, the guy is a real startup veteran. I explained to him with some
> help from a bunch of Paul Graham essays that we want to use Clojure
> just
> because it is "practically" more suitable for the problem at hand and
> not because we are
> We are hiring; but do you live in Mumbai, India? :)
no, but i do know some folks around there (although they are all happy
where they are, as far as i know). do you allow telecommuting from
usa? ;-)
best of luck with the venture.
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Raoul Duke wrote:
>> He, being a fairly intelligent and pragmatic man, accepted my logic.
>
> "dibs!", i would sincerely very much like to hook up with your
> advisers and investors when i start my company! i mean, that sounded
> like an all-too-reasonable experience! :-)
>
> (so, you hiring?)
W
> He, being a fairly intelligent and pragmatic man, accepted my logic.
"dibs!", i would sincerely very much like to hook up with your
advisers and investors when i start my company! i mean, that sounded
like an all-too-reasonable experience! :-)
(so, you hiring?)
sincerely.
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Thats great to hear, hope everything goes well, let us know how it turns
out!
Best regards,
agc
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
> Laurent,
>
> > Out of curiosity, which (combination of) advice do you think 'closed the
> > deal' ?
>
> Well, the guy is a real startup v
Laurent,
> Out of curiosity, which (combination of) advice do you think 'closed the
> deal' ?
Well, the guy is a real startup veteran. I explained to him with some
help from a bunch of Paul Graham essays that we want to use Clojure just
because it is "practically" more suitable for the problem at
Hi,
Out of curiosity, which (combination of) advice do you think 'closed the
deal' ?
Regards,
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Laurent
2009/6/26 Baishampayan Ghose
> Hello,
>
> Wow! Thanks a lot for the awesome advice.
>
> Thank you Konrad, Daniel, Berlin, Jonah, Raoul and others for the
> fantastic tips.
>
> I have, in-f
Hello,
Wow! Thanks a lot for the awesome advice.
Thank you Konrad, Daniel, Berlin, Jonah, Raoul and others for the
fantastic tips.
I have, in-fact been able to convince our advisor about using Clojure.
This won't have been possible without your help.
Clojure, the language and the community rock
I'm no expert but I love to argue, so this is what I would say:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Baishampayan Ghose
wrote:
>
>
> Their concerns are thus:
>
> 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint hearted.
There has been a lot of re-newed interest in lisp over the past
> I need some pointers on this. This is a really crucial thing for me and
> any help will be appreciated.
http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/01/what-ive-learned-from-sales-part-i.html
sincerely.
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On Jun 25, 12:58 pm, Four of Seventeen wrote:
> So, Java is academic and impractical? Tell that to all the web server
> admins deploying it routinely on their servers!
The fact that Sun has managed to convince a lot of people that gobs
of xml and multiple competing build systems are a good id
On Jun 25, 2009, at 12:39 PM, CuppoJava wrote:
>
> I enjoyed Daniel Lyons post there. I recognize some Ayn Rand ideas
> there. Ever read Atlas Shrugged perchance? =)
Thanks! Fountainhead yes, Atlas Shrugged no, actually. :) But my
suggestions there come from my (limited) experience. She's a f
I enjoyed Daniel Lyons post there. I recognize some Ayn Rand ideas
there. Ever read Atlas Shrugged perchance? =)
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FWIW, two points- Paul Graham, among others, has talked about issues
like this. See for instance (about Python):
http://www.paulgraham.com/pypar.html
The argument about using new technologies in the startup context is
generally that smarter people want to work with better tools at higher
levels
On Jun 25, 12:14 pm, cody wrote:
> On Jun 25, 8:39 am, Berlin Brown wrote:
>
> > This is my main point: One thing that Clojure is NOT. It is not
> > limited by the limitations of the Java programming language.
>
> It may not be limited by the java _language_, but it is limited by the
> java _pl
On Jun 25, 8:39 am, Berlin Brown wrote:
> This is my main point: One thing that Clojure is NOT. It is not
> limited by the limitations of the Java programming language.
>
It may not be limited by the java _language_, but it is limited by the
java _platform_.
Given the OP's question about aca
BG,
This kind of thing really burns me up. They trust you to implement the
thing, but they don't trust you enough to pick the tools to implement
the thing with. It's like telling your plumber what kind of pipes and
wrenches to use. You wouldn't dare, unless you were a plumber already.
The
> I need some pointers on this. This is a really crucial thing for me and
> any help will be appreciated.
Here's one - better warn them not to let on what the startup is. Someone
here will get it to market an order of magnitude quicker than they will on
some other platform :-).
On Thu, Jun 25, 2
On Jun 25, 9:39 am, Berlin Brown wrote:
> On Jun 25, 9:31 am, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:29:24 +0530
>
> > Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
>
> > > Their concerns are thus:
>
> > > 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint
> > > hearted.
>
> > You c
On Jun 25, 9:31 am, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:29:24 +0530
>
> Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
>
> > Their concerns are thus:
>
> > 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint
> > hearted.
>
> You can always ask on this list. I'd guess that at any given point
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:29:24 +0530
Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
>
> Their concerns are thus:
>
> 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint
> hearted.
You can always ask on this list. I'd guess that at any given point
in time there are probably several people who'd rather b
Make them watch the following video.
http://ocaml.janestreet.com/?q=node/61
Although the video isn't about Clojure, I think most of the points regarding
ML are true of Clojure as well.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Timothy Pratley
wrote:
>
> > 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is
Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> You could try to point out real-life programs that were written in
> Lisp, including Clojure.
Thanks Konrad.
Can you point out some Clojure success stories that I can quote? I know
about Stuart's AltLaw.org. Anything else that is documented or can be seen?
Regards,
BG
> 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint hearted.
Clojure is extremely easy to learn compared to 'Lisp':
You get collection based functions that apply other functions map/
reduce/filter
You get simple powerful data structures hashmaps sets vectors lists
You get atomic, t
On 25.06.2009, at 07:59, Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
> Their concerns are thus:
>
> 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint
> hearted.
No idea on that one...
> 2. What about the performance of Clojure? Is it fast?
Define "fast"! It all depends on what you do...
I'd re
Hello,
So I have been a Common Lisp user for quite sometime and at my earlier
work we managed to build a state-of-the-art Travel portal in CL with a
very small team of CL programmers.
This was all fine except one thing. The management never really believed
in Lisp and they eventually replaced the
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