On Jun 25, 9:31 am, Nathan Hawkins <uts...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:29:24 +0530
>
> Baishampayan Ghose <b.gh...@ocricket.com> wrote:
>
> > Their concerns are thus:
>
> > 1. How do you get Clojure programmers? Lisp is not for the faint
> > hearted.
>
> You can always ask on this list. I'd guess that at any given point
> in time there are probably several people who'd rather being
> working with Clojure in their day job than whatever they're actually
> doing now. (Me, for instance...)
>
> > 2. What about the performance of Clojure? Is it fast?
>
> It can be faster than a lot of other popular choices, like Ruby or
> Python. I wish it compiled to native code instead of Java, but that's
> mostly because I don't like Java.
>
> > 3. People who want to use this are more academically inclined and are
> > not practical. This will make the whole project fail.
>
> Many innovative ideas in computer science tend to in academia
> and only slowly make their way into more mainstream, practical
> environments.
>
> Consider garbage collection, or relational databases. Both very
> "academic" at one time, and now they're everywhere.
>
> Point being, really practical people use the best ideas they can,
> regardless of where they came from.
>
> Nathan
This is how I think of clojure, but first I want you to do some
experiments. I assuming you come from a Java/J2EE background:
1. Get an image of SQL in your mind.
2. Now build an image of Javascript and what javascript is used for.
3. Now imagine JSPs or ASP, Server Pages.
4. Now imagine XML.
5. Imagine Bash scripting.
6. Imagine what Ruby or Python does for certain people.
7. Envision a J2EE or large application that takes advantage of many
different technologies.
So you have all of these images of different languages and
technologies. They are all different tools used to build an
application for users.
Clojure is a a language that runs on the JVM. It is as simple or as
complicated as you make it. For me, I can treat it as a wrapper over
my existing code or evolve and use complex functional programming
techniques.
This is my main point: One thing that Clojure is NOT. It is not
limited by the limitations of the Java programming language.
Think about Clojure as another tool that you can use to write better
code.
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