really not hard or awkward like I was afraid
>> of. Honestly now I like it much better than vim. And I've found paredit and
>> nrepl.el to be extremely handy, even used together.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:38:05 PM UTC-6, Josef
We have an admin option to start (& stop) a repl server inside our
application so we can nrepl from Emacs into any live running instance
and evaluate code in that live context - great for debugging "only
happens on production" issues as well as making interactive
development and debugging locally m
Not sure how it's obvious or granted as I am pretty new to the clojure
world but I am really loving having a repl namespace in our projects,
compiling the repl file kicks in the (web) application in the same way
it gets kicked in from the -main.
Server goes up, any time we C-x X-s a file we also c
2013/6/8 Jay Fields >
> My favorite recent addition - I can run my app from within emacs, allowing
>> me to change my app with a simple C-x C-e and see my changes immediately in
>> the running app (no restart, refresh or reload necessary).
>
>
> Would you mind to extend on that ?
>
> How is thi
Jay,
2013/6/8 Jay Fields
> My favorite recent addition - I can run my app from within emacs, allowing
> me to change my app with a simple C-x C-e and see my changes immediately in
> the running app (no restart, refresh or reload necessary).
Would you mind to extend on that ?
How is this done
7;ve found paredit and
>> nrepl.el to be extremely handy, even used together.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:38:05 PM UTC-6, Josef Frydl wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Clojure? I have Eclipse
>>> NetBeans and JetBra
On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Terje Norderhaug wrote:
>
> MCLIDE is alive and well. Although the most recent public build was released
> last summer, there are open source on github for those that want to
> participate in the development:
>
>https://github.com/TerjeNorderhaug/mclide
Thanks
was afraid
> of. Honestly now I like it much better than vim. And I've found paredit and
> nrepl.el to be extremely handy, even used together.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:38:05 PM UTC-6, Josef Frydl wrote:
>>
>> Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Cloju
January 17, 2012 3:38:05 PM UTC-6, Josef Frydl wrote:
>
> Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Clojure? I have Eclipse
> NetBeans and JetBrain already installed.
>
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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Lee Spector wrote:
>
> 8) If you want to become a rock star eternal golden coder's hero then
> develop an Emacs-like Clojure coding environment for which the features ARE
> discoverable and for which the learning curve is gentle. This sort of thing
> has been done
On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Catonano wrote:
> My 2 cents:
>
> it´s ture that the Emacs features are not discoverable and that the learning
> curve is mean.
>
> But it also true that once you´ve done it, it brings you a great value.
>
> My suggestions about Emacs:
>
> 1) ...
> 2) ...
> 3) ..
My 2 cents:
it´s ture that the Emacs features are not discoverable and that the
learning curve is mean.
But it also true that once you´ve done it, it brings you a great value.
My suggestions about Emacs:
1) Start with the footage by Peepcode. It´ll save you tons of time,
especially if you´re no
Has ne1 looked at emacs or light table or netbeans or eclipse or vim or
Intelli what ... don't know ... let us post an IDE FAQ please!
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Alan Thompson wrote:
> Have any of you looked at Light Table?
> http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/04/12/light-table---a-new-ide-
Have any of you looked at Light Table?
http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/04/12/light-table---a-new-ide-concept/
I wonder what it would take to get a VIM-like mode available with that?
Alan
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Alex Baranosky <
alexander.barano...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are things
There are things I love and hate about both Emacs and Intellij, so after a
year of working professionally with a bunch of Clojure-Emacs users, I still
end up using Intellij about half the time, and get my fair share of
harassment over it. I'd like to merge the two actually if possible.
On Tue, Ju
I used eclipse emacs+ for about a year for java code once I had started
writing clojure in emacs, it made me more productive, but it was a hassle
to set up.
Unfortunately, when eclipse updated itself to juno, it broke, and there is
still no support.
Going forward, I think this is a more compellin
Have you tried Eclipse Emacs+? http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/emacs 04.06.2013, 21:41, "Korny Sietsma" :My 2c - I use emacs, I love it. I don't inflict it on my team, and I strongly disagree with it being "easy". To learn the basics, yes, but full fluency? If you have someone fluent in I
My 2c - I use emacs, I love it. I don't inflict it on my team, and I
strongly disagree with it being "easy". To learn the basics, yes, but full
fluency? If you have someone fluent in IntelliJ, with the major keystrokes
in their muscle memory, and an instinctive familiarity with all the gui
featu
Hi,
I used to use slimux+tmux combination until I find vim-fireplace.
It's really cool. For me it makes life much easier.
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:35:34 PM UTC+1, Jeb wrote:
>
> Any suggestions for a vim man?
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Cedric Greevey
>
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed,
I like LightTable.
Em terça-feira, 17 de janeiro de 2012 19h38min05s UTC-2, Josef Frydl
escreveu:
>
> Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Clojure? I have Eclipse
> NetBeans and JetBrain already installed.
>
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Am Montag, 23. Januar 2012 14:13:33 UTC+1 schrieb Stefan Kamphausen:
>
> why did nobody mention C-M-Space, yet? To me it's one of the most
>>> important keystrokes across all modes in Emacs, that somehow support the
>>> sexp-concept. One of the keystrokes that I miss in all the other moder
Hi,
On Monday, January 23, 2012 1:27:51 PM UTC+1, lpetit wrote:
>
> 2012/1/23 Stefan Kamphausen
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 20, 2012 9:40:53 AM UTC+1, Norman Gray wrote:
>>>
>>> Thus C-M-(, C-M-), C-M-f, -b, -u, -d and -k do most of what one wants,
>>> in terms of creating and moving ar
On 2012 Jan 23, at 12:27, Laurent PETIT wrote:
>> On Friday, January 20, 2012 9:40:53 AM UTC+1, Norman Gray wrote:
>>>
>>> Thus C-M-(, C-M-), C-M-f, -b, -u, -d and -k do most of what one wants, in
>>> terms of creating and moving around balanced brackets.
>>
>>
>> why did nobody mention C-M-Sp
2012/1/23 Stefan Kamphausen
> Hi,
>
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2012 9:40:53 AM UTC+1, Norman Gray wrote:
>>
>> Thus C-M-(, C-M-), C-M-f, -b, -u, -d and -k do most of what one wants, in
>> terms of creating and moving around balanced brackets.
>
>
> why did nobody mention C-M-Space, yet? To me it
On 2012 Jan 23, at 10:50, Stefan Kamphausen wrote:
> On Friday, January 20, 2012 9:40:53 AM UTC+1, Norman Gray wrote:
>>
>> Thus C-M-(, C-M-), C-M-f, -b, -u, -d and -k do most of what one wants, in
>> terms of creating and moving around balanced brackets.
>
>
> why did nobody mention C-M-Spac
Hi,
On Friday, January 20, 2012 9:40:53 AM UTC+1, Norman Gray wrote:
>
> Thus C-M-(, C-M-), C-M-f, -b, -u, -d and -k do most of what one wants, in
> terms of creating and moving around balanced brackets.
why did nobody mention C-M-Space, yet? To me it's one of the most
important keystrokes ac
I say just to use whichever environment you like most. I use Intellij. And
its all good.
Ctrl-w to grab matching parens.
Ctrl-shift up/down to move lines of code.
Etc... What I'm saying is that most modern tools can generally get you
where you want to go, so pick what you are comfortable with.
On
emacs. :D
Seriously though, start with viper-mode.
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On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Jeb Beich wrote:
> Any suggestions for a vim man?
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jay Fields
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Maris wrote:
>
> Emacs + Paredit is probably the best IDE.
> Nothing improves productivity like paredit.
>
>
Hi,
Hopefully you won't consider it too much self promotion ;-), but I gave
brief (7 mins) lightning talk at the london clojure u
Agreed. I find paredit mode essential for any serious coding. That said,
there are brief periods in which I find I like it off.
On Jan 19, 2012 1:57 PM, "Sean Corfield" wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Laurent PETIT
> wrote:
> > I've tried paredit in emacs, found it really cool, and por
That third trick works in standard vim when you type "da("...except you
don't have to be on the opening paren, you can be anyplace within the sexp
(as long as you're not within a smaller sexp, in which case you'll get that
one.)
A couple quick macros can handle the other two. If those three are th
Greetings.
On 2012 Jan 20, at 01:26, Mark Nutter wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, David Brunell wrote:
>> How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep getting
>> frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
>
> I had the same experience for a while, but
On Jan 19, 5:26 pm, Mark Nutter wrote:
> If you put the cursor on the opening paren and then hit C-k, it cuts
> out exactly that sexp (and its contents) but no more, keeping the
> parens perfectly balanced.
You want C-M-k, not C-k. C-k is a little more aggressive, since it
always kills at least t
On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Mark Nutter wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, David Brunell wrote:
>> How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep getting
>> frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
>
> I had the same experience for a while, but then I r
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, David Brunell wrote:
> How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep getting
> frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
I had the same experience for a while, but then I realized I just had
to remember 3 things:
To enclose an ex
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
> I've tried paredit in emacs, found it really cool, and ported it to
> Counterclockwise.
> I'm now totally sold to it, and I couldn't imagine a working session with
> Counterclockwise's "Strict edition mode" (aka paredit for emacsers) turned
>
2012/1/19 Lee Spector
>
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:42 AM, David Brunell wrote:
>
> > How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep
> getting frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
>
> FWIW I've tried many times over many years and I never lost the
> frustration;
On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:42 AM, David Brunell wrote:
> How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep getting
> frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
FWIW I've tried many times over many years and I never lost the frustration; I
prefer free editing but with go
How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep getting
frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Maris wrote:
>
> Emacs + Paredit is probably the best IDE.
> Nothing improves productivity like paredit.
>
>
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Emacs + Paredit is probably the best IDE.
Nothing improves productivity like paredit.
On Jan 18, 9:31 pm, Jay Fields wrote:
> I'm not running the community edition (and I'm not sure if you are
> either). I've updated to the latest LaClojure (when I upgraded to
> Inte
i'm also using ldea 11 ultimate + the newest plugin, but i the only
debugger i can use is the standard java debugger, so i can only debug if i
go a few steps back until i am inside the clojure internal classes
i don't see/can evaluate any native clojure stuff
can you send me a screenshot so i can
Hi,
Am 18.01.2012 um 20:35 schrieb Jeb Beich:
> Any suggestions for a vim man?
VimClojure
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2501
http://bitbucket.org/kotarak/vimclojure
Sincerely
Meikel
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Jeb Beich wrote:
> Any suggestions for a vim man?
>
Jeb -
I'd recommend either vimclojure or emacs + Evil. I recently switched
from the former to the latter and the transition hasn't been too bad.
I wanted the abilities of emacs + slime + swank, leiningen
integr
I'm not running the community edition (and I'm not sure if you are
either). I've updated to the latest LaClojure (when I upgraded to
IntelliJ 11). I've evaluated expressions successfully in the past, and
when I set a breakpoint I can see locals.
That said, when I tried to do those things and captu
I think the introductory docs, showing how to get going with a variety
of IDEs, are well done: http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started
For me, clooj has been great so far. It has taught me exactly what
I'd want from REPL interaction, when I (probably eventually) move on
to bigger proj
Any suggestions for a vim man?
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jay Fields wrote:
> > Use emacs, if you want the path of least resistance
>
> *boggles*
>
> Say WHAT?
>
> You've got to be kidding. That's like suggesting that the path of
>
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Lee Spector wrote:
> There's obviously no single answer to the OPs question, but these days I'm a
> big fan of Clooj. That said, the holy grail for me would be something like
> FRED (FRED Resembles Emacs Deliberately), which was the editor/IDE in
> Macintosh Com
To bring this a bit more on topic, I recommend jEdit with the Clojure
plug-ins. It's super simple to setup, you can then point the repl
settings at any clojure jar, and use 1.3 or 1.4. I normally use jEdit
for editing, the jEdit repl for running (doc foo) commands, and then a
normal Linux terminal
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Stan Dyck wrote:
> On 01/18/2012 12:12 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
>> Probably because 60-70% of Clojure developers are using Emacs so
> If we're going to start arguing about this (and I've got my popcorn readying
> in the microwave), can we at least agree to leave o
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Dennis Haupt wrote:
> call hierarchy, find usage, stuff like that.
The docs indicate slime / swank can provide some of that but I haven't tried it.
> what tool do you use? i could neither debug in intellij nor netbeans
Emacs. CDT provides debugging and it works
intelliJ debugging support and find usage both got much better when I
moved to IntelliJ 11. Also, you can auto-complete class names with
ctrl+alt+space and it auto-imports.
I'd still recommend emacs for Clojure only work, but the IntelliJ
support has gotten much better.
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:
On Jan 18, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
>> don't see very many S.O.Ses or complaints from CCW, Clooj, or
>> LaClojure, or Enclojure users.
>
> Probably because 60-70% of Clojure developers are using Emacs so
> you'll see more
On 01/18/2012 12:12 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
don't see very many S.O.Ses or complaints from CCW, Clooj, or
LaClojure, or Enclojure users.
Probably because 60-70% of Clojure developers are using Emacs so
you'll see more questions from tha
Am 18.01.2012 21:10, schrieb Sean Corfield:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Dennis Haupt
> wrote:
>> there is no really good ide (analysis, error highlighting, debugging)
>
> Hmm, I have error highlighting and debugging. Not sure what you mean
> by "analysis".
call hierarchy, find usage, st
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
> don't see very many S.O.Ses or complaints from CCW, Clooj, or
> LaClojure, or Enclojure users.
Probably because 60-70% of Clojure developers are using Emacs so
you'll see more questions from that group. Besides, CCW (and possibly
the other
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Dennis Haupt wrote:
> there is no really good ide (analysis, error highlighting, debugging)
Hmm, I have error highlighting and debugging. Not sure what you mean
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Jay Fields wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jay Fields wrote:
>>> Use emacs, if you want the path of least resistance
>>
>> *boggles*
>>
>> Say WHAT?
>>
>> You've got to be kidding.
>
> Calm down
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jay Fields wrote:
>> Use emacs, if you want the path of least resistance
>
> *boggles*
>
> Say WHAT?
>
> You've got to be kidding.
Calm down Ken. I'd define the path of least resistance as "using what
the
I disagree, I found lots of tutorials on the web that helped me learn the
basics of emacs and I did it in few days.
Of course I'm not an advanced emacs user, but I know some emacs/SLIME
commands and it's helping a lot
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jay Fields wrote:
> Use emacs, if you want the path of least resistance
*boggles*
Say WHAT?
You've got to be kidding. That's like suggesting that the path of
least resistance in taking a trip to L.A. involves climbing the north
face of Everest instead of using
ts.
>>
>> Experience reports are welcome.
>>
>> Sent via mobile
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Josef Frydl wrote:
>>>> Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Clojure? I
you want I'd try clooj to
> give you some frame of reference to evaluate other environments.
>
> Experience reports are welcome.
>
> Sent via mobile
>
> On Jan 17, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Josef Frydl wr
Corfield wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Josef Frydl wrote:
>> Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Clojure? I have Eclipse
>> NetBeans and JetBrain already installed.
>
> Two possible answers:
> * use whichever IDE you're already most familiar
Try Counterclockwise, it's good!
But like Sean said, I think Emacs is still a better choice when you need,
when I started learning it I thought it complicated things a little bit,
but when you get used to it, it's just great, I feel much more productive.
(If you are a Windows user, Lisp Cabin
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Josef Frydl wrote:
> Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Clojure? I have Eclipse
> NetBeans and JetBrain already installed.
Two possible answers:
* use whichever IDE you're already most familiar with and install the
appropriate Clojure plugin
27;s on the short-term
roadmap
I cannot speak for the plugins in the other IDEs, though, but I've heard
that if you prefer working with any of them, then you'll probably find
Clojure support in them at least good enough, to say the least.
2012/1/17 Josef Frydl
> Can you please
Can you please recommend the Best IDE for Clojure? I have Eclipse
NetBeans and JetBrain already installed.
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