On Jan 18, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Cedric Greevey <cgree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> don't see very many S.O.Ses or complaints from CCW, Clooj, or
>> LaClojure, or Enclojure users.
>
> Probably because 60-70% of Clojure developers are using Emacs so
> you'll see more questions from that group. Besides, CCW (and possibly
> the other IDEs?) have their own mailing list so you don't see their
> questions on the main list.
Yeah but that's not the whole story; there really is just more complexity to
setting up and using emacs.
I've used emacs for decades and I do appreciate its power, but I still have a
lot of grief trying to set it up or remember how to do some things, and a lot
of frustration with the arcane interface, both in my own work and when
teaching.
There's obviously no single answer to the OPs question, but these days I'm a
big fan of Clooj. That said, the holy grail for me would be something like FRED
(FRED Resembles Emacs Deliberately), which was the editor/IDE in Macintosh
Common Lisp. It had all of the power of emacs (but used Common Lisp rather than
Emacs Lisp) but also all of the ease of use of a modern (at that time),
multi-window GUI that obeyed native GUI conventions. Really the best GUI I've
ever used (including lisp machines, which were pretty good). It sort of lives
on for Clojure in the MCLIDE project, but that doesn't appear to be very active
or supported (and it's mac only).
-Lee
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