On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Jay Fields <j...@jayfields.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Cedric Greevey <cgree...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jay Fields <j...@jayfields.com> wrote: >>> Use emacs, if you want the path of least resistance >> >> *boggles* >> >> Say WHAT? >> >> You've got to be kidding. > > Calm down Ken.
Who is Ken? > I'd define the path of least resistance as "using what > the _majority_ of others use", and in Clojure I think that's emacs. If > you have issues with your editor and you're using IntelliJ, good luck. > If you're using emacs, there's a ton of people who will jump at the > chance to help. This neglects to note that if you're using emacs you'll have more issues in the first place, and fewer you can easily figure out how to fix or work around yourself. Every couple of weeks there's a big thread here started by someone struggling with an emacs problem. I don't see very many S.O.Ses or complaints from CCW, Clooj, or LaClojure, or Enclojure users. Mostly, I suspect, because those now just mostly work out-of-the-box whereas emacs requires complicated setup and its legacy ASCII-terminal-app past and general complication lead to it doing things like blowing up on random unicode characters (just to cite the latest example of an emacs issue to show up on this list). Emacs also offends my engineering sensibilities: the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. :) In fact if you want a brutally honest but undiplomatic opinion it's a baroque, overcomplicated teratoma of code that grew out of a text editor after it was mutated by gamma radiation, and its user interface is so flagrantly *different* from what has become the industry standard for text editing in nearly *every other software that has any text editing* as to make it particularly difficult to learn to use, and if anyone does manage to scale that north face likely to then confound them when they switch between emacs and something more normal, such as whatever editor is built into their mailer or in the office software they use at work or wherever. > Also, I never used emacs prior to learning Clojure. Well, I have had the occasional run-in with it over the years, and each one was accompanied by a booming economy for local pharmacies caused largely by a massive spike in sales of Tylenol. For what that's worth. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
