My 2c - I use emacs, I love it.  I don't inflict it on my team, and I
strongly disagree with it being "easy".  To learn the basics, yes, but full
fluency?  If you have someone fluent in IntelliJ, with the major keystrokes
in their muscle memory, and an instinctive familiarity with all the gui
features, they are not going to be as productive in emacs in a hurry.

Also, while I love the power of emacs, it's really struggling these days
with the text-only idiom.  Speedbar is no replacement for a graphical
directory tree.  Coloured text blocks next to modified lines is no
replacement for being able to hover over a changed line and having a pop-up
(a real pop-up, that is) tool tip that shows you the changes since the last
commit.  And don't get me started on selecting fonts and other
customizations...

For an IDE for someone not from a vim/emacs background, I'd use whichever
of Intellij or Eclipse is most familiar.  Eclipse is more clojure-friendly,
but it has many warts as well - if you know IntelliJ, it's clojure plugin
is definitely good enough.

- Korny



On 3 June 2013 00:05, Wei Qiu <w...@qiu.es> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I used to use slimux+tmux combination until I find vim-fireplace.
> It's really cool. For me it makes life much easier.
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:35:34 PM UTC+1, Jeb wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions for a vim man?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Cedric Greevey <cgre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jay Fields <j...@jayfields.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Use emacs, if you want the path of least resistance
>>>
>>> *boggles*
>>>
>>> Say WHAT?
>>>
>>> You've got to be kidding. That's like suggesting that the path of
>>> least resistance in taking a trip to L.A. involves climbing the north
>>> face of Everest instead of using an airplane. In particular, the
>>> learning curve of emacs and the north face of Everest, in a shocking
>>> coincidence, turn out to have exactly the same geometry. :)
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