On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 07:52:40AM -0400, Jerry (clamav.u...@seibercom.net)
wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:05:40 +0100, Simon Hobson
> articulated:
[snip]
> > Still, it would be better still if someone didn't break in and snuff
> > our candles out to force us to switch to electricity !
>
>
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 06:36:51AM -0400, Jerry (clamav.u...@seibercom.net)
wrote:
> Or, to put it in simpler terms, "It's better to light a candle than
> curse the darkness."
THAT is not a "simple term" ;-)
"It's better to light a (someones) candle than (to let them) curse the
darkness."
On Apr 16, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Simon Hobson wrote:
Hmm, getting somewhat off-topic here ...
Jim Preston wrote:
Except you do not need to move all your applications, users, and
data. All you need to do is build an expensive server and have it
host ONLY email.
I already have a server that
Hmm, getting somewhat off-topic here ...
Jim Preston wrote:
Except you do not need to move all your applications, users, and
data. All you need to do is build an expensive server and have it
host ONLY email.
I already have a server that hosts ONLY mail.
Then your email server will be able t
Quoting Simon Hobson :
And as already pointed out. 1) I am not alone in thinking that the
notices weren't as obvious as they could have been.
Correct that they should have updated the FAQ for this. But you should
have also been on the mailing list, in which case you would have not only
known
On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Jerry wrote:
Out of morbid curiosity, what is you fear of 'compiling' anyway? While
I prefer to use the distros provided by the OS vendor whenever
possible, I realize that, that is not always possible. If you are not
going to be running a Microsoft or equivalent syst
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:06:37 +0100, Simon Hobson
articulated:
> As to restoring settings to a fresh install. I generally find that to
> be a whole load of hassle - unless the versions are reasonably close,
> so much tends to change that I end up having to go and sort things
> out. I wouldn't c
On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Simon Hobson wrote:
Well IFF I had the skills, and IFF the server had the tools
installed, then I suppose I might be able to compile the source
(having figured out how to deal with the broken dependencies). On
the first, I don't - that's why I'm using packag
Jerry wrote:
The bottom line is:
1) You and you alone are responsible for your system. You failed to
keep it up-to-date and are now suffering the consequences. Trying to
off-load that onto someone else's plate just isn't going to cut it.
Please stop telling me what I said - at least until you
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:24:39 +0100, Simon Hobson
articulated:
[snip]
The problem with getting in a pissing contest is that even if you win,
you get wet. There are dozens of other analogies I could use; however,
I don't want to offend you.
The bottom line is:
1) You and you alone are responsibl
Simon Hobson wrote:
And then of course, there's an element of "which language" ?
It's one thing if I can just hit "make clean ; make" and it all works - but
when it doesn't - then being able to at least read whatever language is kinda useful. I
do have some programming experience (done Pasca
Jerry wrote:
> > > What might have been a few minutes to you, is in fact a week or
> > two
>> for me - building a new server, configuring it (the old configs
>> aren't really useful when the software has progressed over the
>> years), tested it fully, and then migrated all the users a
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:31:01 +0100, Simon Hobson
articulated:
> Jerry wrote:
>
> > > Still, it would be better still if someone didn't break in and
> > > snuff
> >> our candles out to force us to switch to electricity !
> >
> >At some point a candle will burn out. Simple fact of life.
>
> OK
Jerry wrote:
> Still, it would be better still if someone didn't break in and snuff
our candles out to force us to switch to electricity !
At some point a candle will burn out. Simple fact of life.
OK, so perhaps bad analogy - if it were an oil lamp, I could keep adding oil !
> What mi
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:05:40 +0100, Simon Hobson
articulated:
> Jerry wrote:
>
> >In any case, at some point in time, when it comes to updating
> >software, or whole operating systems, you just have to "bite the
> >bullet."
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_the_bullet
> >http://www.phrase
Jerry wrote:
In any case, at some point in time, when it comes to updating software,
or whole operating systems, you just have to "bite the bullet."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_the_bullet
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/bite-the-bullet.html
Or, to put it in simpler terms, "It's better
Dima, would you please include a subject with your posts. It makes it
somewhat easier to follow a thread.
In any case, at some point in time, when it comes to updating software,
or whole operating systems, you just have to "bite the bullet."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_the_bullet
http://www
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