[cctalk] Re: Flipping an 8" diskette

This is because, like Apple ][ drives, they used GCR encoding and looked for sync bytes on the disk rather than implementing additional hardware to look for the index hole. Sellam On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:08 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2022, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > > >

[cctalk] Re: Flipping an 8" diskette

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 5:45 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > How do they handle the issue of how the drive knows whether it is SS, DS, > or SS flippy? Or is it assumed that that problem is for the host FDC? > (some DS drives had both SS and DS index sensors, so that they could read > SS in th

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

I think there's a rather large disparity in value between the two systems. I'm not sure what an IBM 5100 would go for these days, but a Lisa 1 will generally sell in the $10K+ range minimum these days. I had two Lisa's with Twiggy drives: one I sold for $9,600, and the other for $14,500. That was

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

The Lisa is the first consumer grade GUI computer to come to market. The Xerox 8010 with the Star operating system preceded it by a couple years, but that was a high-end $50,000 (in 1981 dollars) workstation with big businesses as the target market. So it has some historical significance in that

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 12:49 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Haven't heard from you for a while! > Yep, and I missed you at the VCF this year. I decided to re-join this list when I happened upon it through a web search. The traffic is considerably less than it used to be so it's a tolerabl

[cctalk] Re: Identity of this PII PC Main board?

Looks to me like it has two CPU slots. Just can't see any manufacturer markings on the motherboard. It also has a different number of PCI slots and I/O ports than the Gigabyte board on their website. Maybe it's made by a different manufacturer that ended up in the wrong box? Seller has 100% pos

[cctalk] Re: TVI-921C

Lots of Televideo docs scanned thanks to good old Al ==> https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/televideo/ Nothing for the 921 but there is an operator's manual for the 922 which may shed some light on what the continuous beep might mean. Sellam On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 9:33 AM Peter Coghlan v

[cctalk] Re: Test Message

0x06 On Fri, Sep 16, 2022, 9:09 AM Kevin McQuiggin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Pardon the test message, I have just re-subscribed to the list but have > seen no traffic on it for a couple of days. > > Kevin McQuiggin

[cctalk] Re: Looking for Fred N van Kempen ... (pdp11, GUTS)

Hi Graham. I last communicated with Fred at least a year ago (might've been two, actually). Last I heard from him he was moving into a nursing home as he was apparently debilitated as a result of a car accident some years ago. I believe the last time he reached out to me was via Facebook. Later

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

Rebuild as in Steve Austin. Holy crap. Sellam On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:29 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > ive got a 8i i need to finish rebuilding > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/34539786085/in/photolist-UsNVQc-UnZy3U-UnXoiN-UCar4c-Tj2Q4F-svoMkx-rRe2wa-sMG

[cctalk] Re: Bendix G-15 Restoration

Awesome history, Rick! Sellam On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 9:35 AM Rick Bensene via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Paul wrote: > >> modify a lot of the software. Timing dependencies aside, G-15 > instructions > >> didn't have addresses -- they had "timing numbers" that effectively > told

[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild

I blame Google: it's complete trash now. Sellam On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > 4 words is not "Google-fu". > > Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem. > > I'

[cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases

Yes, eBay charges the seller the same commission on shipping as it does for the item price, and the taxes charged to the buyer as well. Sometimes if you contact the buyer and ask them nicely if they can add a cheaper shipping option they will oblige you, but some can't use UPS or FedEx for practic

[cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases

From the USPS Domestic Mail Manual, section 170, subsection 4.1(i): "Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or scripts prepared solely for use with such media." Sellam On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 8:23 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Bill Gunsha

[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild

m On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 8:59 AM ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2022-10-10 5:01 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > I blame Google: it's complete trash now. > > > > Sellam > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < > > cctalk@

[cctalk] Re: PDP 8a front panel hardware

Not everyone has a fully tooled machine shop, perhaps? On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 10:09 AM Tony Duell via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:04 PM Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk > wrote: > > > Those are the ones. The 3D printed parts are essentially triangular > > blo

[cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskette storage cases

t 10:21 AM John Foust via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > At 09:16 AM 10/11/2022, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > >Yes, eBay charges the seller the same commission on shipping as it does > for > >the item price, and the taxes charged to the buyer as well. > > A

[cctalk] Re: 8" floppy diskettes themselves (was: 8" floppy diskette storage cases)

In my experience, floppy disks prove to be very resilient with the specific exception of late 1990s 3.5" floppies, which tend to fail readily. Sellam On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:24 PM John Herron via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Just curious but how does one predict if floppys will be

[cctalk] Re: datapoint 2200 programming

I have an entire box of Datapoint 2200 digital tapes, probably over 50 of them. I'm not sure what's on them, but I got them long ago from a former dealer/tech(?) for Datapoint outside Reno. I also scored a ton (probably literally) of hardware but that was all stolen in the Great Vintage Computer

[cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012

Long story very short: Landlords evicted me from their warehouse where my collection was stored and wouldn't let me back in. Had to go to court. Regained access and was able to pull out 20% of the collection before they locked me out again for good. Then sold the rest to computer recyclers, who

[cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012

Did you take them to court again to get compensation for what must have > been a substantial loss? Very strange story. You must have been furious. > > On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, 4:54 pm Sellam Abraham via cctalk, < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > Long story very short: >

[cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012

d clear the > locker over a weekend. I didn’t get much for it, but at least it didn’t go > to a recycler. > > > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 4:54 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Long story very short: > > > &g

[cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012

There were many benefactors from my loss, many innocent, some not. Those who benefitted from ill-begotten gains will pay for it in other ways, if they haven't already. Such is the natural law. Sellam On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:38 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On

[cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012

Sellam On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:11 PM Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > Shoulda paid the rent. > > A sad tale indeed. > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:11 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > The good news is that most of my best stuff w

[cctalk] Re: Large private collections

I used to claim "largest privately held collection on the planet" and no one ever challenged me. I like to think of it in terms of atoms, because empty space is just a vacuum. On that account, I control a tremendous number of atoms. Sellam On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 6:31 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk

[cctalk] Re: datapoint 2200 programming

Hi Rich. As an aside, are there any updates as to the fate of the LCM collection? I'd heard sordid rumors about its dispersal but would appreciate definitive word from a reliable source (i.e. yourself) to the extent you're able to discuss it. Thanks. Sellam On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:43 PM Rich

[cctalk] Re: Think millenia [was Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012]

I can actually advise on the formation of some sort of organization (a foundation or ministry is the best kind, but a private trust is also a good option) into which ownership of one's collection can go, with instructions for continuity of the collection (or dispersal) after one's demise. If anyon

[cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012

Well, that's because the "WIKI" in "Wikipedia" stands for "We Impose Knowledge Interpretation". Sadly, the promise of the internet has been utterly destroyed by megalomaniacs, zealots, and abject morons. It's up to people like us to preserve history as it actually happened, and not as the would-b

[cctalk] Re: Bubble Memory

If you want I can buy them for you and ship them to you. Since shipping is free it'll only cost you for the overseas shipping, and I can get good rates through PirateShip. If you're interested, e-mail me off-list and we'll work out the details. Sellam On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 6:24 PM Doug Jackso

[cctalk] Re: Bubble Memory

on kind of an interesting name > but I don't know what what kind of reputation do they have? thanks Ed# > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 6:39 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk< > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: If you want I can buy them for y

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

Tomasz, This is a very interesting and relevant question. To the extent that there is an implied and enforceable contract between donor and donee that a donation not be neglected or removed from public use, if a donated item were to actually be removed from public use, that would definitely be ac

[cctalk] Re: Disk imaging n00b

Fred, The Victor/Sirius 9000 was sort of PC compatible and featured a varial speed floppy format, no? Sellam On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 3:09 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> Note that some disk types are CLV, not CAV (e.g. some Mac disks), and > >> reading them without additional hardware supp

[cctalk] Re: Disk imaging n00b

Fred, There was a project someone did years ago where you can read GCR disks in an unmodified PC drive by first inserting a PC formatted disk to get synced and then swapping in a GCR encoded disk, then it can actually read the raw pulses and they get decoded in software. I forget the website wher

[cctalk] Re: Disk imaging n00b

sk in it, and then switches to the other that contains the subject GCR disk. Cool hack. Sellam On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 5:16 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > There was a project someone did years ago where you can read GCR disks i

[cctalk] Re: Beehive Topper help needed

I've never heard of Beehive making anything but terminals but then everyone and their mother corporation were making CP/M computers at one point so it's certainly both plausible and possible. Sellam On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 4:05 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 11/5/22 15:45, Liam Proven via

[cctalk] Re: Beehive Topper help needed

Here are some stubs of information I found via Google Books search: Ad in Computer World (October 25, 1982) https://books.google.com/books?id=75XGp5bJW1UC&pg=RA1-PA16-IA13&dq=beehive+topper+%22cp/m%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMivD07Zn7AhXOF1kFHdlhD6QQ6AF6BAgLEAI#v=onepage&q=beehive%20topper%20%22cp%

[cctalk] Re: Shipping help in Brunswick, GA

Back in the day, Forward Air was a good option with good rates ==> https://www.forwardair.com/ I haven't used them in years though. And someone will still have to prepare it for freight shipment (i.e. palletize it). Or, maybe visit your nearest truck stop and talk to some truckers and ask how yo

[cctalk] Re: Beehive Terminal Manual

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 12:13 AM Harten via cctalk wrote: > In message <07974889-701d-e159-8873-87c3f64bc...@sydex.com> > Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > > I'm getting a little confused. Are we talking about the Topper, or a > > specific Beehive terminal? If it's the former, there'

[cctalk] Re: Exabyte recovery

I've got this Exabyte 8900 drive currently listed for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/403940369941 Unfortunately I could not find a tape to do at least rudimentary testing. If you're interested, I'll give you a much better price in a direct sale. Contact me privately and I can provide more informa

[cctalk] Re: Inline Serial Device?

I recommend the DEADBEEF dish. Sellam On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 4:41 PM Warner Losh via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 4:41 PM Glen Slick via cctalk > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:36 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > > > On 11/12/22 11:56,

[cctalk] Re: Any working Datapoint 2200 systems?

Steve said: > I recall a talk from one of the early 1980s Commodore engineer, where he was amazed ANY C64 was still > running since the components were truly not designed to last more than a few years. Me too, to be honest. But then, they seem to just randomly die at any moment, so maybe the C6

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

Point of order for the dummies: what is a tape seal? Sellam On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 8:36 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 11/14/22 04:25, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > > I've been reporting on 9-track tape seal failures over at least the past > 2 decades here. > >

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

There's got to be a copyright date hidden somewhere in it. Sellam On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 6:49 AM John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 02:07 AM 12/5/2022, you wrote: > >Watch PAWN stars do America WITH CHUM LEE ETC. . The SF. Episode that > ran. That poster was in it I believe > > I don't see it

[cctalk] Re: reset "pulse" stretcher need

Just glue the contactor thingy back onto the motor spindle. Done. Back to vintage computers. On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 9:47 AM Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > On 12/7/2022 11:28 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > > I don't suppose there's an extra NC contact on the motor switch/relay? If > > so, a rel

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

Ed, Do you remember the episode? Sellam On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:37 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > Having a good hi Def scan would indeed be nice. > Having this thing show up on pawn stars probably helped kick the price > up.Ed# > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android > > On Sat, D

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

Thanks for the tip. I found the episode ==> https://play.history.com/shows/pawn-stars-do-america/season-1/episode-4 I watched through the entire insidious thing. Unfortunately, the Silicon Valley poster never comes up. However, there is a Apple ][+ that they buy for $700 (lol) at timemark 1:55,

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

gt; > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp> > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:45 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > Thanks for the tip. > > I found the episode ==> > https://pl

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

eck Seattle also I watched both same evening...when wa mixed in with art > or grunge rock.posters > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp> > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 6:07 PM, Sellam Abraham vi

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

one urem of a 4 item feature that us out > of 4 of video! videos! Yea I am calling it quitting this topic too! > ED# > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp> > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 6:07 PM, Sel

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

. > > https://gspawn.com/products/apple-computer-poster-map-of-silicon-valley-in-1990-price-check > . > They are asking $799.00. > > In comparison they are also asking $699 for a trs-80 model 3. > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 6:46 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk < > cctalk@classi

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

et but this is their website with what I > assume is the poster. > > https://gspawn.com/products/apple-computer-poster-map-of-silicon-valley-in-1990-price-check > . > They are asking $799.00. > > In comparison they are also asking $699 for a trs-80 model 3. > > On Sun

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

Holy crap, someone actually paid $810 for it? Sellam On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 3:58 AM John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 01:20 AM 12/12/2022, John Herron via cctalk wrote: > >I haven't found the episode yet but this is their website with what I > >assume is the poster. > > > https://gspawn.com/prod

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

lassiccmp.org> wrote: > At 09:53 AM 12/12/2022, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > >No wonder the prices on vintage computer stuff has been going through the > >roof on eBay over the past couple years. > > If you spent $1,000 on a Commodore 64 system in 1985, > that's

[cctalk] Re: Old Silicon Valley poster

ers of the C64. I only came across one in all my days of collecting (that used to be in my collection). Sellam On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:02 PM John Foust wrote: > At 03:30 PM 12/12/2022, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > >$700 for a C64? Egads, you've been watching too much ba

[cctalk] Re: Free Tandem NonStop Himalaya K-Series Cyclone systems

Enjoy this link instead: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255471320134 On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:

[cctalk] Re: Free Tandem NonStop Himalaya K-Series Cyclone systems

/12/22 3:38 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > Enjoy this link instead: > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/255471320134 > > Take a closer look at Rumi's original email. > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:04 PM Larkin Nickle via cctalk < > > cctalk@

[cctalk] Re: unpleasant odor from VT100

Might've just been a dead bug that got cooked. Check for a carcass. Sellam On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:06 PM hush hush via cctalk wrote: > Peter, thank you for the reply! i had to wait a bit for it to get dark > enough, but i just checked and i could not see any visible arcing inside > the chass

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

I am going to ditto Zane because I basically could've written that same exact message like an infinite monkey on an infinite typewriter. Sellam On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 3:41 PM Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > On Dec 20, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Chris via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Specifically as pertaini

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

Not true, I observed someone beating that dead horse within the past year. Sellam On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Chris via cctalk > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Specifically as pertaining to old/vintage/classic/retro compuing > > > d

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

Mac from the past 15-20 years can be answered. And then there's the simple web search for the same. Sellam On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 4:50 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > Not true, I observed someone beating that dead horse w

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

This is really funny. Do you all realize how many times we've gone over this over the past 25 years? As Bill poignantly explained, maybe instead of trying to establish a cut-off date, we instead think outside of the box: If enough people object to a topic, it stops. Let's call it three objectio

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

Old 8-bits are fun. All you need is a television generally and you're ready to go. Power it up, drop into BASIC, and start doing stuff. With a PC you need a keyboard, a monitor, a mouse probably, a desktop, some software, etc. How cumbersome. And uninteresting. And boring. Maybe not the greatest

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

Hi Steve. (Long time no talk.) My suggestion to you, as abhorrent as it may seem, is to buy a complete PET 2001, take your 3 keycaps, and part the rest out. Preferably one that's in crap shape. They aren't that uncommon. Sellam On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM steve shumaker via cctalk < ccta

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

I will have to admit that, until I joined the CC list in 1997 when it was first launched by Bill Whitson (anyone ever heard from him since he last posted about sticking razorblades to the underside of his dashboard to thwart thieves, which apparently worked?) I didn't have much knowledge about comp

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

Chris, This list was never declared to be exclusively an 8-bit affair. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. From the get go in 1997 when Bill Whitson founded the list, all computers of a vintage or obsolete nature were game for discussion. It's only after a few years and time marching o

[cctalk] Re: Replacing NiCd with NiMH in a pro way.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 8:58 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Why they're used in a non-rechargable application is anyone's > guess. > Probably because of the characteristic of their discharge in conjunction with the heating coil. Sellam >

[cctalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: what is on topic?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 9:51 AM Zane Healy wrote: > > Having seen another of your posts, I’m left to wonder how many of us had > our eyes opened by this list back in 1997. In my case having worked on > some systems decidedly “vintage” systems, prior to joining the list helped > spark my interest.

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:19 AM Marvin Johnston via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > After all is said and done, my observations since the time this > listserver was up in Washington is that anything OT has a very short > "shelf life." That would suggest most people here have a working

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:49 AM steve shumaker via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > No kidding! It has been a while. I've pretty much been lurking > without much to say here since I lost all my toys in the fires two years > ago. Managed to replace a couple Heathkit units since then b

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

a solution - figured someone here would know about if it was done. > > Mike Stein pointed me at a complete set of replacement labels for the > > key tops so that's start. > > > > Enjoy! Happy Holidays! > > > > Steve > > > > > > On 12/21/

[cctalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: what is on topic?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:31 PM Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > For PC’s, being able to run WinXP is an interesting cutoff, and I think > makes sense. Zane > You've apparently never heard of Tony Duell: last I read he was running Windows 98 on an IBM PC/XT or something like that :) Sellam

[cctalk] Re: painting computer cases

Chris, I don't know specifically about the IBM PC, but I think what you're describing is powder coating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_coating Sellam On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 2:36 PM Chris via cctalk wrote: > I must have asked numerous times on numerous forums how this is done. Did > yo

[cctalk] Re: painting computer cases

Chuck, You can buy that in a spray can at the hardware store. I've used it before for some of the replicas I've built. It works great. Sellam On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 4:38 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 12/22/22 15:37, Chris via cctalk wrote: > > Ok I'll stick

[cctalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: what is on topic?

Seems a bit impossible to me as well but Fred has made computers do things that would make ordinary men involuntarily lose their bladder so I look forward to the story/explanation. Sellam On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 6:46 PM Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 6:16 PM Fred Cisin via

[cctalk] Re: painting computer cases

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 6:50 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > There's also a finish you'd often see in car trunks--"spatter coat"--a > textured finish with multicolored globs of paint. That *is* possible > with a rattle can. > > --Chuck > Yes, I've used it, though I've

[cctalk] Re: Searching for a few good TI Silent 700 parts

Hi Charles. Which specific model? I have a 745 sans keyboard that can be parted out further. Sellam On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 10:54 AM Charles via cctalk wrote: > I have a Silent 700 terminal that only needs a printhead (several > missing pixels on mine) and three keyswitches (I have the keytops

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

You're single-handedly responsible for the downfall of SGI? Do tell. Sellam On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 7:21 AM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > I still use my Indigo Elan from time to time. Oddly enough it was I who > discovered the interesting issue that ultimately sank SGI's graphics > market when

[cctalk] Re: Searching for a few good TI Silent 700 parts

Hi Charles. I'll try to check out whether or not the unit prints later this afternoon or evening and get back to you. I had some people wanting keyboards for their homebrew projects, and these things being so common and (to me) boring I had no compunctions parting out the keyboard for it, which I

[cctalk] Re: PT-68K

Fred, Those don't sound familiar, are they SBCs? If I did end up with them, it's a crap shoot as to whether they'll turn up or not. I was left with 20% of the collection and I've gone through about 25% of that 20%, and I re-discover neat and interesting stuff all the time as I continue to dig th

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

When I'm archiving disks and begin to get unrecoverable errors, I do a head cleaning and, if the errors go away, it was a dirty head; but if they don't, something's wrong with the disk. Sellam On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 5:29 PM Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > When reading old floppies, how often is

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 12:53 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > A few years later, I got a used ["Euro"]-Apple II, converted for USA use, > in an OSI Challenger case (with wood (walnu?) sides), with an external RCA > keyboard. > Did the motherboard have an additional RAM

[cctalk] Re: DEC LINC Eight auction

Ryan, Let me know if you need measurements for the plexiglass sides. I still have those in my PDP-8 replica folder. Sellam On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 1:43 PM Ryan de Laplante via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I’ve used Craters & Freighters and also Pakmail to pick up large machines > l

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

23 at 1:41 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> A few years later, I got a used ["Euro"]-Apple II, converted for USA > use, > >> in an OSI Challenger case (with wood (walnu?) sides), with an external > RCA > >> keyboard. > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Se

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

n > >> external RCA keyboard. > >> If you didn't get it, then maybe Eric Smith? > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > Was it this style (Challenger 4P)? > > > https://imgs.search.brave.com/p_LUazpNEKMRJwuHl-uqgVmE7lVt1-7AodxQMTSCvOY/

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

gt; All in all a fun trip down memory lane. And I kept thinking "Was I > really that naive? > > C > > On 1/10/2023 6:18 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > Yes, the 2/2P models I [think I] had were blue. > > > > Sellam > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 20

[cctalk] Re: I need to make some space...

I KNOW WHAT I GOT! :) On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 5:40 PM wh.sudbrink--- via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > You're quite right. I'm in Maryland, near Washington, DC. As to prices, > I'm looking for best offer. Preference to local pick up. Things, like the > HP-150 docs, may become "free

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

Chris, Apparently, ChatGPT 3 was trained on a large codebase, and in the reviews I've watched, as well as in my own experience, it is amazingly astute at generating (usually) working code in just about any language you can think of, including assembly languages of various flavors. Could it custom

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

> On 1/16/23 18:46, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > Chris, > > > > Apparently, ChatGPT 3 was trained on a large codebase, and in the reviews > > I've watched, as well as in my own experience, it is amazingly astute at > > generating (usually) working code in ju

[cctalk] Re: long lived media (Was: Damage to CD-R from CD Sleeve

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 8:57 AM Chris via cctalk wrote: > The bottom line is you have to dispense with the fantasy that any media > will reliably keep data for really any length of time. I don't know, man. Those stone walls with carvings in them have carried data forward so far for centuries,

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:20 AM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On a common metalanguage, there was an attempt to define such a thing, to > allow software to be encoded in a way that could still be understood > centuries from now. I have a paper about it somewhere but my

[cctalk] Re: long lived media (Was: Damage to CD-R from CD Sleeve

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:49 AM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Old stuff being preserved is often a matter of chance or luck rather than > planning. Consider the Linear B clay tablets; those were preserved because > they were accidentally baked, in the fires that were s

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 3:52 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 1/17/23 15:34, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > > Science still has no real idea how we think. Or how we learn. Or much > > else about the actual functioning of the brain. Until they do how can >

[cctalk] LINC-8 sells for $2,150

That LINC-8 sold for $2,150. A total bargain. https://hibid.com/lot/143159802/digital-equipment-corp-linc-eight-vintage Sellam

[cctalk] Re: ebay: GE reel tape drives from the 60s

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 1:42 AM P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: > Hi list , > > came across this listing: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/354525985222 > > I just love the engineering quality of these early electro-mechanical > systems! Reminds me of the CDC 60x series reel tape drives. > BTW, not affilia

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 6:32 PM Rich Alderson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > /It's worth noting that the PDP-11 was a 36-bit word machine and the DC > > LO and DC HI signals were used to transfer 18-bits of data at a time. It > > has also a feature of memory mapping, where it can a

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

Me: What can you tell me about the Classic Computers mailing list? ChatGPT: I'm sorry, I am not aware of any specific "Classic Computers mailing list." Could you provide more information or context about the mailing list you are asking about? Me: It was started in 1997 by Bill Whitson and eventua

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 12:43 PM Chris via cctalk wrote: > All I can say is if you haven't watched Terminator: the Sarah Connor > Chronicles ... um why not? I didn't even know it existed prior to 3 years > ago. Actually pretty thought provoking at times. Maybe ChatGPT will end up > being like Jo

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 1:17 PM Ali via cctalk wrote: > > > I don't know. I always thought it was kind of a nice idea. Doctors fer > > instance are so stupid these days. They need all the help they can get. > > In what way are they so stupid? > I could answer this pretty much definitively but th

[cctalk] Re: Fw: Re: AI applied to vintage interests

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 1:20 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I think that self-driving cars should be required to have a licensed > driver with hands on the wheel at 10 and 2, or 9 and 3. > 10 & 2?? What are you, old or something? Modern training specifies 8 & 4 At least that's what I learn

[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 1:31 PM rar--- via cctalk wrote: > Museum Staff Helps Exonerate David Veney > Fantastic. Thank you for doing this. Wrongful conviction (especially of rape) is an egregious part of our "justice" system that happens more than most people know (or even care to know, which

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