Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 12 May 2022, Peter Coghlan wrote: about it? Maybe it would be more accurate to use terms like steady voltage and alternating voltage? Alternating doesn't seem like that good a term In German it's exactly like you suggest it. We say "Gleichspannung" (= constant/steady voltage) and "Wec

Re: Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division

2022-05-12 Thread Jonathan Katz via cctalk
https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2018/11/102740473-05-01-acc.pdf ?? On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:08 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Were did you find that reference. Gavin? > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android > > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:02 PM, Gavin Scott w

Re: Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division

2022-05-12 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
YEP THAT IS  PART OF  TE PICTURE THX   ED# In a message dated 5/12/2022 3:22:23 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:  https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2018/11/102740473-05-01-acc.pdf ?? On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:08 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2022, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > >> Anyway, the good news is that I think I have found the source of the >> problem. One of the capacitors used to filter the (DC?, pulsed DC?, >> rippled DC?, biased AC?) supply to the 9V regulator is marked 330uF/

RE: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > Wayne: AC DC terminology has been well documented since the 1800's. > Don't try to reinvent the terms or no one will know what you are talking > about. > I answered a few things below... > They didn't have switch mode power supplies in the 1800s. Terms like AC and DC as understood back th

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2022-05-11 7:02 p.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: It's hard to come up with suitable terms for this sort of stuff that convey the meaning of what is going on. I struggled with it for a while and that was what I ended up with. With the strict meaning of DC and AC being direct current and

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2022-05-12 4:40 a.m., Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2022, Peter Coghlan wrote: about it?  Maybe it would be more accurate to use terms like steady voltage and alternating voltage? Alternating doesn't seem like that good a term In German it's exactly like you suggest it.

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Wed, 11 May 2022, Paul Koning wrote: > > I guess especially for standard capacitors factories ordered whatever was > > readily available whereas with the high-ripple low-impedance/ESR parts the > > choice was much more limited. > > I wonder if nowadays a good replacement for the case where l

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Thu, 12 May 2022, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > I replaced the capacitor in question with a blue Nichicon SE of the same > value scavanged from another H7821 until I order some spares. I now have > 8.7V available on the 9V supply, a little less than I hoped for but it is > enough to make t

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: On 2022-05-11 7:02 p.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Given the normal usage that has evolved for the terms DC and AC rather than their dictionary definitions, I would suggest that the current that gets passed by a rectifier has both a DC component and an AC comp

Recent purchase of NIC-80 computer.

2022-05-12 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi All There was a Nicolet computer purchased recently on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/363826255294?item=363826255294&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565 Looking at the buyers history, it looks like it was purchased by a collector. Bob Rosenbloom and I are wondering if anyone know who might ha

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 12, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: >> On 2022-05-11 7:02 p.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: >>> Given the normal usage that has evolved for the terms DC and AC rather than >>> their dictionary definitions, I would suggest that

Re: Recent purchase of NIC-80 computer.

2022-05-12 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 12, 2022, at 1:03 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > Hi All > There was a Nicolet computer purchased recently on ebay: > https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/363826255294?item=363826255294&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565 > Looking at the buyers history, it looks like it was purchased by a col

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2022-05-12 11:37 a.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: On 2022-05-11 7:02 p.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Given the normal usage that has evolved for the terms DC and AC rather than their dictionary definitions, I would suggest that the current that gets

HP 54200D oscope practically worthless?

2022-05-12 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
I picked up one of these in a batch of electronics. Is it worth repairing/investigating? I don't see much on the web and they seem to go for practically nothing on epay. Is there something inherently wrong with them? Thanks, Bill S. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus

Re: HP 54200D oscope practically worthless?

2022-05-12 Thread Alexander Huemer via cctalk
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 02:01:50PM -0400, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: > I picked up one of these in a batch of electronics. Is it worth > repairing/investigating? > I don't see much on the web and they seem to go for practically nothing on > epay. > Is there something inherently wrong with

Re: HP 54200D oscope practically worthless?

2022-05-12 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> The scope does what it is supposed to, you get a time-domain > visualization of voltage. Though, they are awkward to use due to the > lack of rotary encoders. Scaling horizontally or vertically requires > you to go into a menu, navigate to the right option, do the actual > scaling and go b

RE: HP 54200D oscope practically worthless?

2022-05-12 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Alexander Huemer wrote: > The scope does what it is supposed to, you get a > time-domain visualization of voltage. Though, they > are awkward to use due to the lack of rotary encoders. > Scaling horizontally or vertically requires you to go into > a menu, navigate to the right option, do the ac

Lecture: The Danish Data History Association is on the move, 2022-05-14, 19:00

2022-05-12 Thread Anke Stüber via cctalk
Hi all, you're invited to the Update computer club[0] public lecture series "Updateringar"[1]! When: 2022-05-14, 19:00 CEST Where: https://bbb.cryptoparty.se/b/upd-0mo-m2u-aq8 The Danish Data History Association is on the move … We, the Danish Data History Association (Dansk Datahistorisk Foren

Re: HP 54200D oscope practically worthless?

2022-05-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 5/12/22 13:01, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: I picked up one of these in a batch of electronics. Is it worth repairing/investigating? I don't see much on the web and they seem to go for practically nothing on epay. Is there something inherently wrong with them? I have a 54200A that I g

Nicolet Computer interest

2022-05-12 Thread dancohoe--- via cctalk
Hi Dwight, In 2010 I purchased a Nicolet LAS 12/70 Data and Signal Processor System box on ebay. I hoped it was a Nicolet computer but then could find nothing online about it. It's on the shelf here and I've never looked inside to see what's there. It's ridiculously heavy. I don't know if the

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Wayne S wrote: >> On May 12, 2022, at 09:56, Peter Coghlan via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: On 2022-05-11 7:02 p.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Given the normal usage that has evolved for the terms DC and AC rather than their dictionary definitions

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 05/12/2022 2:14 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > > Wayne S wrote: > >> On May 12, 2022, at 09:56, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > >> wrote: > >> > >> Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > On 2022-05-11 7:02 p.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > Given the normal usage that has evo

Re: Recent purchase of NIC-80 computer.

2022-05-12 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi Paul It may be a little slow for DSP. Its main thing was that the acquisition didn't require and processor time. It was designed before uPs. ( not counting what was used in the F16's ). It is fun because it has a full front panel to toggle in a bootstrap. Then one can load with the serial. M

Re: Nicolet Computer interest

2022-05-12 Thread dwight via cctalk
It may have a processor inside. if it is the one I think it is, it uses 2900 ALUs. If you can send a picture I may be able to tell. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of dancohoe--- via cctalk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 1:45 PM To: 'dwight via cctalk' Subject: Nic

Re: DEC H7822 power supply

2022-05-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
>> >> If I am trying to calculate the height a sea harbour wall needs to be, can I >> not consider the height of the tide and the height of the waves separately >> and add them together, just to make it easier to work it out even though I >> know that it would be physically impossible to disti

Re: HP 54200D oscope practically worthless?

2022-05-12 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 12:25 PM Alexander Huemer via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 02:01:50PM -0400, William Sudbrink via cctalk > wrote: > > I picked up one of these in a batch of electronics. Is it worth > > repairing/investigating? > > The scope does what it

Re: HP 54200D oscope practically worthless?

2022-05-12 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 5:55 PM Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > > These appear to be derived from the 1630/1631 logic analyzers, some models > of which have 'scope capability, which works as you've described. They must > have decided to offer models with only the scope and without the logic > analz

Dumping an Intel P8742AH

2022-05-12 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
Anyone here have experience dumping the contents of an Intel P8742AH OTP EPROM device? I have one that I haven't been able to dump with either a BP Microsystems BP-1610, or a Data-I/O UniSite device programmer. Both have device entries for that specific device. Both report device connection errors