More DEC Alpha kit available, Newmarket UK

2016-10-21 Thread Adrian Graham
Folks, We have another pedestal ES40 and rackmount ES45 to give away, as well as a half-height Compaq rack (20U?). Has to be collected from CB8 7NY before the end of next week otherwise they get recycled. Anyone fancy an early xmas present? :) -- adrian/witchy Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK'

Re: More DEC Alpha kit available, Newmarket UK

2016-10-21 Thread Mark Darvill
Hi Adrian, Can I put my hand up to claim the systems and rack to add to my collection? Thanks, Mark > On 21 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Adrian Graham wrote: > > Folks, > > We have another pedestal ES40 and rackmount ES45 to give away, as well as a > half-height Compaq rack (20U?). Has to be collected

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Lars Brinkhoff > Emacs in 1983 would have been Gosling Emacs, I guess. Prior to that one, someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, alas) did an Emacs intended for PDP-11's running Unix. It wasn't programmable (the way 'real' Emacs is), perhaps because there was not enough

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Noel Chiappa writes: > > Emacs in 1983 would have been Gosling Emacs, I guess. > > Prior to that one, someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, > alas) did an Emacs intended for PDP-11's running Unix. It wasn't > programmable (the way 'real' Emacs is), perhaps because there was not > enough

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Lars Brinkhoff >> someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, alas) > Sounds vaguely like MicroEMACS by Dave Conroy, but I suppose this is > something else? Unix V6 you say? Was it BBN PEN by David Barach, David > Taenzer, and Robert Wells? None of those names r

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Noel Chiappa wrote: > I found some things which indicate the version I'm thinking of was > written by Warren Montgomery, of Bell Laboratories I found this reference, which makes your copy very interesting indeed: CCA EMACS is Zimmermans EMACS which is an extension of Warren Montgomery's E

Re: More DEC Alpha kit available, Newmarket UK

2016-10-21 Thread Tom Moss
Hi Adrian, I would also be interested, should Mark be unable to collect them for any reason. Regards, -Tom On 21 October 2016 at 11:28, Mark Darvill wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > Can I put my hand up to claim the systems and rack to add to my collection? > > Thanks, Mark > > > On 21 Oct 2016, at 11:

Re: assembler, disassembler for Intel 8089?

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
There is 8089 support in MAME, if you want to try to simulate something with an integrated debugger On 10/20/16 11:53 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:51 PM, dwight wrote: > >>> From: space...@gmail.com >>> >>> Before I write my own, does anyone happen to have an assembler and/o

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
Did anyone mention MINCE--a micro version of Emacs? I recall a few friends using it back in the day... --Chuck

HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
for anyone wanting to try David's MFM emulator in an HP MFM 7945 disk box, here is the format, determined from reading a Vertex V170 drive from one --sectors 32,0 --heads 7 --cylinders 987 --header_crc 0x,0x1021,16,0 --data_crc 0x,0x140a0445,32,5 --format WD_1006 --sector_length 256

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Chris Hanson
Do you have any of the “GNU” emacs versions that were derived from Unipress/Gosling emacs, prior to the clean-room rewrite of the Gosmacs code? (Were those ever widely distributed?) — Chris

Re: HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
the 7941 used a V130 so for that substitute --heads 3 for --heads 7 On 10/21/16 10:16 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > for anyone wanting to try David's MFM emulator in an HP MFM 7945 disk box, > here is the > format, determined from reading a Vertex V170 drive from one > > --sectors 32,0 --heads 7 --cyli

Re: More DEC Alpha kit available, Newmarket UK

2016-10-21 Thread Adrian Graham
Hi Mark, 3 minutes, that was impressive :) When can you head over to pick things up? Office hours are 9-5:30 every day, obviously you'd need a flatbed truck or van for everything. Cheers Adrian On 21/10/2016 11:28, "Mark Darvill" wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > Can I put my hand up to claim the sys

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Ian S. King
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Lars Brinkhoff > > > Emacs in 1983 would have been Gosling Emacs, I guess. > > Prior to that one, someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, alas) > did an Emacs intended for PDP-11's running Unix. It wasn't programmabl

Re: Unibus disk controller with modern storage

2016-10-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 20, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: David Bridgham > >> the right threshold voltage to meet the receiver spec > > The UNIBUS spec says the 4 crucial receiver parameters are input thresholds > (high and low), and the input currents (high and low); the crucial > transmi

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Chris Hanson wrote: > Do you have any of the “GNU” emacs versions that were derived from > Unipress/Gosling emacs, prior to the clean-room rewrite of the Gosmacs > code? (Were those ever widely distributed?) I seem to have stumbled upon a GNU Emacs 13.8. I'll post this src/display.c snippet as ev

Re: Unibus disk controller with modern storage

2016-10-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Oct 20, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> >>> From: David Bridgham >> >>> the right threshold voltage to meet the receiver spec >> >> The UNIBUS spec says the 4 crucial receiver parameters are input thresholds >> (high and

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
Starting my trek through old tape archives, I can find EMACS (all caps) mentioned in 1978. (MIT labs). Is there any earlier mention? --Chuck

Re: Unibus disk controller with modern storage

2016-10-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > >> On Oct 21, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> >> >>> On Oct 20, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >>> From: David Bridgham >>> the right threshold voltage to meet the receiver spec >>> >>> The UNIBUS spec s

Re: Unibus disk controller with modern storage

2016-10-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > 1976 Peripherals Handbook, page 6-4. It specifies the driver output > low voltage at 70 mA sink, not 50... Differing editions give slightly different numbers. I was looking at the 1972 edition (which was the one that was closest to hand, no other reason); the num

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Chuck Guzis write: > Starting my trek through old tape archives, I can find EMACS (all caps) > mentioned in 1978. (MIT labs). Is there any earlier mention? Yes. Files in MIT's ITS systems documents the early EMACS history well. For example, MC:EAK;EMACS LORE. David Moon: > In August 1976, a b

Re: Unibus disk controller with modern storage

2016-10-21 Thread Pete Lancashire
To solve the loading problem a division of Tektronix built their own Unibus repeater. We not only had a lot of stuff attached to the Unibus but was in multiple rack instruments. We also went with round cables the Tektronix made internally. We also made our own Unibus cables and added a few LEDs to

Burroughs B5000 emulator

2016-10-21 Thread Liam Proven
A friend of mine is working on an emulator for this Burroughs Large Systems beast. There is an existing one -- https://github.com/pkimpel/retro-b5500 But it's web-based and in Javascript. Mark wants one that can be run as a proper local binary, under Linux. I believe he's using part of this emula

RE: HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Rik Bos
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens Al Kossow > Verzonden: vrijdag 21 oktober 2016 19:17 > Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Onderwerp: HP 7945 disk format > > for anyone wanting to try David's MFM emulator in an HP

Re: RL02 packs available [Was: Re: Are DEC TK50/TK70 tapes worth hanging onto?]

2016-10-21 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 03:24:28PM -0500, Matt Patoray wrote: > Hello, > > I would be interested in a few RL-02 packs with DDXP or RT-11 on them. Any > idea what you would want for them? Not really :) A bit of patience is necessary though. I don't know if the RL drives I have access to is workin

Re: Burroughs B5000 emulator

2016-10-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > A friend of mine is working on an emulator for this Burroughs Large > Systems beast. > > There is an existing one -- https://github.com/pkimpel/retro-b5500 The current SIMH appears to have a B5500, I don't know its status. You might take

Re: HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
I suspect it's the head servo. I've been trying to get a solid read out of the v170 I've been experimenting with all morning. It chugs along, recals, then a seek failure. I'd also like to understand the failure mode of Maxtor positioners. I had a 2190 croak (literally) as I was trying to read i

Re: Unibus disk controller with modern storage

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
I'd trust the later documents. They went through a lot of pain in the 70's pushing the limits of what the bus could do. If it were me, I'd build the stuff on Eurocards with a cable running to a Unibus paddle. On 10/21/16 12:23 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Paul Koning > > > 1976 Peri

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-21 Thread william degnan
Any disk or archive you come upon from the early 90's should be scanned for viruses before use on a vintage machine. USe a modern PC as it's no biggie to clean old viruses that way. Scan before you use on an older machine, scan inside of ZIP files not just the zip itself. There were three viruse

RE: HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Rik Bos
The ones I have (except of cause the working) seem to find trk0 and generates a drive not ready after that point. I've done some measurement on the drives but they aren’t very consistent with the service manual. There seems to be a jumper configuration which places the drive in a test mode, I'v

Re: HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
is your copy better than the one at http://maben.homeip.net/static/S100/vertex/disk/VERTEX%20V100%20Maintenance%20Manual.pdf ? On 10/21/16 2:32 PM, Rik Bos wrote: > The ones I have (except of cause the working) seem to find trk0 and generates > a drive not ready after that point. > I've done som

Re: HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
I also forgot that I found the schematics last year. Up under /pdf/vertex On 10/21/16 3:41 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > is your copy better than the one at > http://maben.homeip.net/static/S100/vertex/disk/VERTEX%20V100%20Maintenance%20Manual.pdf > ? > > On 10/21/16 2:32 PM, Rik Bos wrote: >> The o

Re: Burroughs B5000 emulator

2016-10-21 Thread Tor Arntsen
On 21 October 2016 at 16:37, Liam Proven wrote: > A friend of mine is working on an emulator for this Burroughs Large > Systems beast. [..] > I have suggested to him that it might be easier to work under an > existing mini/mainframe emulator, such as SimH or maybe even > MESS/MAME, but he is highl

Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-21 Thread Steven M Jones
On 10/21/2016 14:15, william degnan wrote: > Any disk or archive you come upon from the early 90's should be scanned for > viruses before use on a vintage machine. USe a modern PC as it's no biggie > to clean old viruses that way. Scan before you use on an older machine, > scan inside of ZIP file

Re: HP 7945 disk format

2016-10-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/21/16 2:32 PM, Rik Bos wrote: > There seems to be a jumper configuration which places the drive in a test > mode, I've seen it somewhere but can't find it online anymore. > http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/hard-drives-hdd/priam/V130-26MB-5-25-FH-MFM-ST506.html anyone know of a not-mangled-i

PDP-11 RL02 disk emulation

2016-10-21 Thread Scott Baker
Hi, The author of this project http://www.pdp11gy.com built a wire-wrapped board to interface an RL02 controller (RL11, RLV21, or RL8A) and an FPGA development board (which does all the heavy lifting for the disk emulation). I decided to build one of these emul

Re: Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-21 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 21 Oct 2016, Steven M Jones wrote: I didn't think modern A/V products included complete historical sets of signatures. I'm sure they can deal with ancient, simple bootloader infections and such, but at some point I'd be concerned there's a gap where something might be too new to be detect

OT: Excessive bounce notices?

2016-10-21 Thread Sam O'nella
Just curious, I probably could have just asked Jay but incase this was wider spread I received a message that my subscription at my Gmail was suspended due to bounces. I was wondering if that may have been only today and more widespread from the Dyn dns ddos that happened? If so others may want

Re: OT: Excessive bounce notices?

2016-10-21 Thread Tor Arntsen
On 22 October 2016 at 04:07, Sam O'nella wrote: > Just curious, I probably could have just asked Jay but incase this was wider > spread I received a message that my subscription at my Gmail was suspended > due to bounces. I was wondering if that may have been only today and more > widespread fr

Re: Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-21 Thread william degnan
> > John McAfee predicted that 5 million computers would be wiped out. > The press were called in. > > On March 6, there were apparently DOZENS of drives wiped. Few, if any records kept to verify numbers. > McAfee, as expected, took full credit, and declared that the REASON why it was dozens, inst

RE: Excessive bounce notices?

2016-10-21 Thread Jay West
There were 98 "subscription disabled" messages today. I'm going through the db and unflagging them so they are reenabled. 100% of the sub disabled was in the @gmail.com domain, for domainkeys according to the message. J -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.

Re: Excessive bounce notices?

2016-10-21 Thread jim stephens
maybe the bounces from the DDNS attack today? Wouldn't be surprised. It was that serious. 8.8.8.8 may not have had problems, but anyone else using something from the attacked DNS provider would have come up gooseeggs, and maybe that bounced a lot of stuff the list sent out. Thanks Jim On 1

Re: Excessive bounce notices?

2016-10-21 Thread drlegendre .
Had the notice here, can confirm. On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:01 AM, jim stephens wrote: > maybe the bounces from the DDNS attack today? Wouldn't be surprised. It > was that serious. 8.8.8.8 may not have had problems, but anyone else using > something from the attacked DNS provider would have c