Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 12:51:28AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > OpenVMS 7.3 was the last release. And with that release, a few early > VAX models were officially not supported. However, I think it should > work, in theory. There is always the question of the machine being > slow enough, or n

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 11:49:28PM -0400, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > So yes, [Open]VMS 7.3 will run on a VAX-11 series VAX. And probably > even on a microVAX as well (though I haven't tried). > The follow up question then is, is there a reason to avoid 7.3 on lower end VAX models, say VA

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-05 07:26, tony duell wrote: You have no memory, and probably no devices to complete the Unibus. So, it is quite likely showing the Unibus is in a jammed state. At the least, you need a Unibus terminator, and any bus grant cards between the CPU and the terminator (you'd have to check

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Peter Coghlan
On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 at 09:12:59 +0200, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 11:49:28PM -0400, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > > So yes, [Open]VMS 7.3 will run on a VAX-11 series VAX. And probably > > even on a microVAX as well (though I haven't tried). > > > > The follow up question

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-05 11:21, Peter Coghlan wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 at 09:12:59 +0200, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 11:49:28PM -0400, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: So yes, [Open]VMS 7.3 will run on a VAX-11 series VAX. And probably even on a microVAX as well (though I haven't tri

RE: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread tony duell
> > The specific issue of an open grant chain locking the Unibus is a quirk > > of the M9302 terminator (which asserts SACK under such conditions). This > > is unlikely to be a problem on an 11/10. > > Why? The 11/10 also have a Unibus, and also needs the terminator as well > as the SACK and other

Compaq Portable II - IDE compatibility (and setup disk image)

2015-10-05 Thread Jules Richardson
My Portable II uses a Miniscribe ST506/412 drive hooked up to a bridge board that I'm told is IDE at the other side, back to the controller. The original drive in my machine is toast - I had to pop the lid to free the spindle. It spins up now, and might cough up some data (for a while), so in

Trivia Question: Pixar Image Computer

2015-10-05 Thread Toby Thain
Hi, This recent Quora answer contained a little gap - the name of the person who designed the original logo on the case. Quick Googling didn't help. Anyone have the trivia answer? http://qr.ae/RP2GQy Any other PIC/Pixar/Renderman anecdotes welcome. Sounds like a pretty fancy bit of hardwa

Re: Trivia Question: Pixar Image Computer

2015-10-05 Thread Jonathan Katz
My guess would be good 'ol John Lasseter. On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > Hi, > > This recent Quora answer contained a little gap - the name of the person > who designed the original logo on the case. > > Quick Googling didn't help. Anyone have the trivia answer? > > http:/

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Noel Chiappa
>> From: Tony Duell >> I am working from 2 Printsets, both from Bitsavers. One is the GT40 one >> (yet another backplane of course, but the same CPU, core memory, etc). > Ah, thanks for that pointer; I'll see if it shows the same board > versions as my 'early' hardcopy set.

Re: Calcomp 1039 plotter docs?

2015-10-05 Thread simon
Hey this is interesting. we have a different controller, indicating that a change from a 1038 to a 1039 involved changing the controller as well. see my pics. https://hack42.nl/gallery/v/Museum/2015-09-18-138.jpg unfortunately i cannot find a picture of the back of the controller. simon On 05

Re: Writing SCSI 9-Track Mag Tapes from Windows/DOS

2015-10-05 Thread simon
well, we at hack42 are discussing a pertec to usb converter based on a microcontroller. pertec seems straightforward, now how to present the drive to the os... Simon On 03-10-15 10:20, Mike Ross wrote: Question: will this kind of hookup work with a USB-SCSI converter? If so, are there any spe

RE: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread tony duell
>> isn't the switchable divider only present on later boards (the early > > ones being pretty much 110 baud only)? > > Ooh, right you are - another way to tell the early M7260 from later ones. If Yes, it is a pity that the later board set (a) has the jumper to disable the built-in consol

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-10-05 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim S > I suspect I also need an additional card at minimum for my escapade, > and I'm not sure if one card will do it. > I've got pretty much one of every 2 size processor and the 11/03 4 up > processor card. I also have several serial cards, and some memory. Then you

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-05 13:50, tony duell wrote: The specific issue of an open grant chain locking the Unibus is a quirk of the M9302 terminator (which asserts SACK under such conditions). This is unlikely to be a problem on an 11/10. Why? The 11/10 also have a Unibus, and also needs the terminator as we

Re: Trivia Question: Pixar Image Computer

2015-10-05 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-10-05 9:39 AM, Jonathan Katz wrote: My guess would be good 'ol John Lasseter. The answer did include the extra info that it was a stone carver. I don't see that in Lasseter's bio. --Toby On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Toby Thain wrote: Hi, This recent Quora answer contained

Re: Calcomp 1039 plotter docs?

2015-10-05 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Simon, thanks for your email and the link to the pictures - you indeed have a more modern version of the controller. Maybe, yours is the later OPC907 and not the 906 I have got. Anyhow the plugs look quite similar, so it probably is a drop in repelacelemt... My controller understands a subs

Re: Trivia Question: Pixar Image Computer

2015-10-05 Thread Ben Sinclair
Are any Pixar Image Computers in the hands of collectors? I would love to have one of those, even if it didn't do anything! On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > Hi, > > This recent Quora answer contained a little gap - the name of the person who > designed the original logo on the

Re: Calcomp 1039 plotter docs?

2015-10-05 Thread Mike Loewen
Guys: Please don't CC to both cctalk and cctech. Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

RE: Trivia Question: Pixar Image Computer

2015-10-05 Thread Ali
> Are any Pixar Image Computers in the hands of collectors? I would love > to have one of those, even if it didn't do anything! Probably - I remember at least two being listed on eBay over the past five to six years. They were being offered at ridiculous prices so not sure if anyone bough them b

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Johnny Billquist Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 4:53 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-11/10 repair started On 2015-10-05 13:50, tony duell wrote: The 11/10 generally uses an M930 terminator. Right. However, the SACK signal exists, even on th

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-05 17:24, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Johnny Billquist Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 4:53 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-11/10 repair started On 2015-10-05 13:50, tony duell wrote: The 11/10 generally uses an M930 terminator. Right. Ho

Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread Adrian Graham
Hi folks, Some storage reorganisation last week uncovered a PET4032 I'd forgotten I had. Spotless internally (I remembered why later) and glass fuse intact so I attempted powerup. Nothing. No screen and no chirrup. Google + schematics time. I've checked AC voltage at the iron lump and all major c

RE: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread tony duell
> > When you don't have any core memory, I wonder if you might need bus > grants in those slots as well...? It's not as if they aren't a part of > the Unibus... Memory sits on the Unibus, just like everything else, > remember? Needs to check further if any special wiring are in place for > those s

RE: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread tony duell
> > One chip that does get hot is the Character Generator at UA3 which I was > going to swap with the one in my other 4032, but that doesn't power up > either. Presumably I can borrow one from a 3032 or 8096? A machine with a dead character generator ROM (unless it is so dead as to pull a power

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Johnny Billquist Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 5:44 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-11/10 repair started Ok. I got the initial impression that you only had the CPU in. Thanks for the expanded info. When you don't have any core memory, I

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-05 17:56, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Johnny Billquist Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 5:44 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-11/10 repair started Ok. I got the initial impression that you only had the CPU in. Thanks for the expanded info. Whe

Re: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread Adrian Graham
Hi Tony, The screen's not connected, nor keyboard. I figured there was no point until I got a chirrup. My logic tester is a cheapo Micronta, yes. There's an unpopulated ROM socket at UD11 so I can easily get +5 and GND from there for probing, I'll do that tonight. A On 5 October 2015 at 16:55,

RE: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread tony duell
> > The screen's not connected, nor keyboard. I figured there was no point > until I got a chirrup. Well, if the piezo buzzer has failed But I guess that's not very likely. -tony

Re: Manual for the Overland Data OD3201 Tape Drive?

2015-10-05 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/04/2015 11:12 PM, Marc Verdiell wrote: Anyone has the operation and service manual for the 9-track mag tape drive Overland Data OD3201? Similar to a Qualstar, but seems larger-faster-quieter-better. Just succeeded putting it online. This one is unusual in its simplicity - it has both a Pert

Re: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: "Adrian Graham" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Dead PET4032 Hi Tony, The screen's not connected, nor keyboard. I figured there was no point until I got a chirrup. My logic tes

Phishing spam? Fwd: Scheduled Maintenance & Upgrade

2015-10-05 Thread Chuck Guzis
Admin: I take it that this is phishing spam. Just not used to seeing it on cctalk. --Chuck Forwarded Message Subject: Scheduled Maintenance & Upgrade Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 01:56:57 +0800 From: Help Desk Reply-To: help.desk.team...@tech-center.com Help Desk Scheduled M

Re: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread william degnan
Look for inconsistencies in voltages and pulses to and from RAM. You may need RAM at the lowest memory locations to boot. Hooking up the keyboard at least to eliminate a missing keyboard as a reason the system does not boot, and you can issue commands to search a disk drive even if the display is

RE: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread tony duell
> Look for inconsistencies in voltages and pulses to and from RAM. You may > need RAM at the lowest memory locations to boot. Hooking up the keyboard > at least to eliminate a missing keyboard as a reason the system does not The PET keyboard is just a matrix of switches, if nothing it pressed i

Re: Trivia Question: Pixar Image Computer

2015-10-05 Thread Sean Caron
RICM apparently has one... there's a few pics on the page. http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/Home/equipment/pixar-image-computer Best, Sean On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Ben Sinclair wrote: > Are any Pixar Image Computers in the hands of collectors? I would love > to have one of those, even

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Sean Caron
I ran OpenVMS V7.2 on a MicroVAX II (KA630) back when I was in high school and it ran quite happily albeit very slowly with 16 MB RAM (and a SCSI disk). Just text mode but I was able to use layered products like TCP/IP or some of the compilers. I've also run OpenVMS V7.2 on VAXstation 3100/30s _wi

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread william degnan
What are the DC LO and AC LO values off the backplane? Do they change when you insert the CPU card. (one at a time). On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-10-05 17:56, Henk Gooijen wrote: > >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Johnny Billquist Sent: Monday, >>

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 10:52:15AM -0400, Sean Caron wrote: > you'll find not as bad as you had originally thought! :O :) Thank you, I'll see when I get there. I'm curious about the old window managers though, the pre X11 stuff. So I'll probably try a few different versions. /P

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 5, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 10:52:15AM -0400, Sean Caron wrote: >> you'll find not as bad as you had originally thought! :O > > :) > > Thank you, I'll see when I get there. I'm curious about the old window > managers though, the pre X11 st

Re: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread Adrian Graham
> Is UD11 the only empty socket? If there's a chip > in UD12 I'd remove it in case it's defective or > has bent pins etc.; it'll be an option ROM of some > sort. Done, I'll see if my programmer can read it once my only working windows box stops updating itself, sheesh. > Vcc. I would connect the

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 03:19:55PM -0400, Paul Koning wrote: > > You mean VWS? From what I remember, X11 is, amazingly enough, a fair > amount faster as well as functionally way superior. > Yes VWS, I don't always play with classic computers for their performance and superiority ;-) /P

Re: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread Adrian Graham
On 05/10/2015 19:52, "william degnan" wrote: > Look for inconsistencies in voltages and pulses to and from RAM. You may > need RAM at the lowest memory locations to boot. Hooking up the keyboard > at least to eliminate a missing keyboard as a reason the system does not > boot, and you can issue

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: william degnan Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 8:59 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/10 repair started What are the DC LO and AC LO values off the backplane? Do they change when you insert the CPU card. (one a

Re: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 2:52 PM, william degnan wrote: > Look for inconsistencies in voltages and pulses to and from RAM. Yep. > You may need RAM at the lowest memory locations to boot. Absolutely. The startup routines will be unhappy if zeropage is not there. You can check for -5V as well, si

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread william degnan
good news as far as power supply goes. On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: william degnan Sent: Monday, > October 05, 2015 8:59 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic > Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/10 repair started > What are the

RE: Dead PET4032

2015-10-05 Thread dwight
One chip getting hot does bother me. Have you measured the voltage rails. If the voltage is gone, it may be shorted. Just swapping it out may not be a good idea unless you know that it wasn't a failed regulator that caused it to short out. Some of the TO-3 type regulators depend on the screws con

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Ian S. King
ISTR having run 7.2 briefly on an 11/785 (to troubleshoot an install problem with 6.2), and while I didn't do much with it, it did come up and run. And I've used 7.2 quite a bit on 3100-series machines with minimal RAM. Granted, I didn't try to do anything resource-intensive, but I did run the ma

Re: Trivia Question: Pixar Image

2015-10-05 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 10:10:52 -0500 > From: Ben Sinclair > Subject: Re: Trivia Question: Pixar Image Computer > > Are any Pixar Image Computers in the hands of collectors? I would love > to have one of those, even if it didn't do anything! > > -- > Ben Sinclair > b...@bensinclair.com > The R

Re: COS-310 "BAD DATE"

2015-10-05 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 15:01:46 -0500 > From: Jay Jaeger > Subject: Re: COS-310 "BAD DATE" > > I doubt that any PDP-8 family OS checks for licensing of any sort. > > Back in those days, DEC used the format DD-MMM-YY for dates, so try > something like: > > 04-OCT-78 > > JRJ > Thanks Jay, that w

Re: PDP-11/10 repair started

2015-10-05 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 10/5/2015 10:24 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: = Sorry for the delayed answer, I don't have email available at work -:/ I have one M930 in slot 3 position A-B, because that is the termination for the processor. I am pretty sure (not 100%) that I also have an M930 in slot 9 position A-

Re: VMS and supported VAX hardware

2015-10-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/05/2015 09:52 AM, Sean Caron wrote: I ran OpenVMS V7.2 on a MicroVAX II (KA630) back when I was in high school and it ran quite happily albeit very slowly with 16 MB RAM (and a SCSI disk). Just text mode but I was able to use layered products like TCP/IP or some of the compilers. I set up

Spare Time Gizmos Life game LED tool

2015-10-05 Thread dave
I've acquired an unpopulated board for a Spare Time Gizmos Life game. Does anyone here who've made one still have an LED tool you don't need that you can pass along. How about a design file for making one myself? I tried asking this on the Spare Time Gizmos list and nobody replied. -- David