----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Graham" <binarydinosa...@gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Dead PET4032


Hi Tony,

The screen's not connected, nor keyboard. I figured there was no point
until I got a chirrup.

My logic tester is a cheapo Micronta, yes. There's an unpopulated ROM socket at UD11 so I can easily get +5 and GND from there for probing, I'll
do that tonight.

A

Is UD11 the only empty socket? If there's a chip in UD12 I'd remove it in case it's defective or has bent pins etc.; it'll be an option ROM of some sort.

Tony's right about the CG; it's not directly connected to the data & address busses so it's not likely to hang the system unless it's pulling down Vcc. I would connect the monitor though instead of just relying on the buzzer for signs of life; if there's any display at all it might give a useful clue.

I'd also check UD7 for poor contact or bent pins

Finally, I'd ask on the Vintage Computer Forum; even without me (;-) there are some very knowledgable PET folks there.

Good luck!

m


On 5 October 2015 at 16:55, tony duell <a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
> One chip that does get hot is the Character > Generator at UA3 which I was > going to swap with the one in my other 4032, > but that doesn't power up > either. Presumably I can borrow one from a > 3032 or 8096?

A machine with a dead character generator ROM (unless it is so dead as to pull a power supply line down) will still initialise. You would get the
warble.

And I would be surprised if you got nothing on the screen either. Odd bit rot would mean the wrong patterns for some characters. But still something.

This is presumably a large-screen machine with a 6845 on the mainboard. Is it initialising that (look at the vertical and horizontal sync outputs
with your
logic probe, are they toggling)?

Is it accessing the kernal ROM? Is the CS/ pin pulsing low?

What about the RAS/ and CAS/ signals on the DRAMs?

> A lot of the repair pages use a piggyback > 6502/ROM/RAM add-in called a > PETvet but all I have is a DMM, logic tester > and other working PETs as
> sources of chips I can borrow.

I assume the logic tester is a simple logic probe and not a logic
analyser, alas

-tony




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