Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-23 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > > > > Van: Guy Sotomayor Jr<mailto:g...@shiresoft.com> > Verzonden: woensdag 23 november 2016 17:29 > Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts<mailto:cctalk@ > classiccmp.org> > Onderwerp: Re

RE: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-23 Thread Henk Gooijen
Van: Guy Sotomayor Jr<mailto:g...@shiresoft.com> Verzonden: woensdag 23 november 2016 17:29 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options > On Nov 23, 2016, at 7:11 AM, willia

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-23 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Nov 23, 2016, at 7:11 AM, william degnan wrote: > > > 3) I would not mind getting something like Guy's UA11 to test with. Are > these available? > Yes, they are still available (along with KM11s) TTFN - Guy

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-23 Thread william degnan
> > >> Interesting. I suppose the LTC on the M7856 could also be disabled... > I'll have to try that and see if it works. The DL11-W manual doesn't seem > to cover any special installation procedures for the 11/40, and the 11/40 > System Manual describes Slot 9 as a "SMALL PERIPHERAL CONTROLLER (

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/22/16 5:13 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: On Nov 22, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: So... maybe I just completely missed the memo on this, and maybe there's still something wrong with my backplane... is it possible that slot 9 of the 11/40's CPU backplane is wired *specifically* fo

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:43 PM, william degnan wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > >> >>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >>> >>> >>> So... maybe I just completely missed the memo on this, and maybe there's >> still something wrong with my b

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread william degnan
> > > I have my 11/40 fired up right now too. I can load BASIC and I have a > M9312 with a M7800 that returns serial signals/monitor running. I have the > CPU backplane, two core planes (empty), a DD11B and an DD11C. I can > operate without a grant card in slot, but I can't boot up using RL02 e

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread william degnan
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > > On Nov 22, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > > > > So... maybe I just completely missed the memo on this, and maybe there's > still something wrong with my backplane... is it possible that slot 9 of > the 11/40's CPU backpla

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > So... maybe I just completely missed the memo on this, and maybe there's > still something wrong with my backplane... is it possible that slot 9 of the > 11/40's CPU backplane is wired *specifically* for an M7800? I guess I need > to s

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/22/16 4:00 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: On 11/22/16 9:27 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Josh Dersch derschjo at gmail.com > see if the same is true for other bus grants -- I can run the system > with no grant continuity card at all in slot 9 and everything works. Well, th

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/22/16 9:27 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Josh Dersch derschjo at gmail.com > see if the same is true for other bus grants -- I can run the system > with no grant continuity card at all in slot 9 and everything works. Well, the BG4-BG7 grants definitely _are_ run through

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch derschjo at gmail.com > see if the same is true for other bus grants -- I can run the system > with no grant continuity card at all in slot 9 and everything works. Well, the BG4-BG7 grants definitely _are_ run through the SPC slot 9 (see below) - at least, on a st

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Josh Dersch
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > It's possible that they didn't bother wiring NPG to that slot, but > sent > > it directly to the NPG pin on the 'UNIBUS out' connector > > Sho'nuff; the 11/40 prints indicate (pg. 86) that "BUS NPG" goes directly > from > C07P2 ("So

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Noel Chiappa
> It's possible that they didn't bother wiring NPG to that slot, but sent > it directly to the NPG pin on the 'UNIBUS out' connector Sho'nuff; the 11/40 prints indicate (pg. 86) that "BUS NPG" goes directly from C07P2 ("Source" - you can see the generation on print K4-5, pg. 62, lower righ

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-22 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > There appears to be no continuity between CA1/CB1 of slot 9 and CA1/CB1 > of the SPC/MUD slots in the rest of the system. Is that the only issue? If so, that should be 'not too hard' to track down. It's possible that they didn't bother wiring NPG to that slot, b

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread allison
On 11/21/2016 05:44 PM, william degnan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > >>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, william degnan >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >>> Hi all -- I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/21/16 5:47 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Josh Dersch > The 11/40 is mostly working ... but I've been unable to boot anything > (like XXDP, for example). What are you trying to boot from? I've tried an emulated TU58 and (most recently) a UNIBUS SCSI controller that I'm f

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > The 11/40 is mostly working ... but I've been unable to boot anything > (like XXDP, for example). What are you trying to boot from? > Slot 9 of the CPU backplane is supposed to be an SPC slot but it > doesn't seem to work Missing/hard-wired BG/NPG jumpe

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread Josh Dersch
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Josh Dersch > > > I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started > > working on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- > I've > > learned a lot since then and I'm hoping to be able t

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread Jerry Weiss
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 4:44 PM, william degnan wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > >> >>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, william degnan >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >>> Hi all -- I'm finally turning my atte

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started > working on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've > learned a lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly > now). A KM11 might help, if you have on

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread william degnan
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, william degnan > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > >> Hi all -- > >> > >> I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started > working > >> on 7 years ag

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread Jerry Weiss
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, william degnan wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > >> Hi all -- >> >> I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started working >> on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a >> lot since

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

2016-11-21 Thread william degnan
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > Hi all -- > > I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started working > on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a > lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly now). > > My ul