On 11/22/16 4:00 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:



On 11/22/16 9:27 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
     > From: Josh Dersch derschjo at gmail.com

> see if the same is true for other bus grants -- I can run the system > with no grant continuity card at all in slot 9 and everything works.

Well, the BG4-BG7 grants definitely _are_ run through the SPC slot 9 (see
below) - at least, on a stock system. It's _possible_ that the software
you're loading doesn't use interrupts. (I have this vague memory that, unlike the -11/34, the /40 doesn't complain if there's a non-continuous grant line.) Or perhaps someone wired them across on that slot, to avoid knuckle-mashing
trying to put a G727 down there.
Yes, I'd expect them to be run through the slot (though I expected the NPG, too :)). And there does seem to be continuity between the BG pins on the CPU backplane and those on the DD11.

If I remove the grant continuity card from slot 9, I can still boot XXDP. If I remove a grant continuity card from the DD11 (with NPG still intact), I can't -- it hangs as I'd expect with a hole in the grant chain.

No one's done anything cute like hard-wiring the grants in and there's no evidence of any modifications. All expected voltages are present on the backplane pins in the right places. I put a little contact cleaner in the slot too, just in case. I still can't get an SLU to function in that slot, though the CSR addresses seem to respond and the console/diagnostic PROM chugs along happily when I power the machine up (though nothing appears on the serial line).

Tonight I may try running the SLU on an extender board and verifying that all the proper voltages are actually making it to the board. The fact that the board appears to be responding but I'm getting nothing over the serial line makes me think that maybe the -15V isn't present for some reason...

Annnnd: mystery solved (?). I had borrowed the SLU I was using in the 11/40 from my 11/34. This was an M7856 (DL11-W). Thought I'd grab another SLU from my UNIBUS drawer and configure it up so I could put the 7856 back in the 11/34, but all I had left were the older, more annoying to configure M7800s (DL11-D). So I jumpered it up (max of 2400 baud with the crystal that's currently installed, blah) and installed it. Works fine in the DD11 backplane.

Moved it to slot 9 of the CPU backplane.  Still works.

So... maybe I just completely missed the memo on this, and maybe there's still something wrong with my backplane... is it possible that slot 9 of the 11/40's CPU backplane is wired *specifically* for an M7800? I guess I need to spend some time tonight seeing what the differences are... but now I need to go attend to a cranky 2yo who just woke up from a nap...

- Josh


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