> On May 18, 2021, at 9:05 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Zane Healy wrote:
>>
>> Sorry Peter, I wasn’t even thinking about that at the time, as Malte had
>> reported he was able to read them with DECW$BOOKREADER. Though thinking
>> about it again, it’s not a bad idea, as it woul
Zane Healy wrote:
>
> Sorry Peter, I wasn’t even thinking about that at the time, as Malte had
> reported he was able to read them with DECW$BOOKREADER. Though thinking
> about it again, it’s not a bad idea, as it would let me see exactly what
> I’m seeing.
>
> Any pointers to “FILE”? I’m finding
> On May 18, 2021, at 3:57 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I think Zane was reading the files from an ISO image I made of a 1989 CONOLD
> CDROM.
Correct.
> That CDROM had previously been used as a toboggan by one or more members the
> DEC Reading Engineering Team and so was so
On May 18, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Zane Healy wrote:
>> On May 17, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>> Zane,
>>>
>>> How about redirecting DECW$BOOKREADER to display on an X server elsewhere?
>>>
>>> $ SET DISPLAY /NODE=domain.name /TRANSPOR
Antonio Carlini wrote:
On 18/05/2021 10:17, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
The content of your posting which I was replying to and the error
message you
quoted suggested to me that your concern was that the bookreader files you are
attempting to read are "corrupt".
I think Zane was reading t
On 18/05/2021 10:17, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
The content of your posting which I was replying to and the error
message you
quoted suggested to me that your concern was that the bookreader files you are
attempting to read are "corrupt".
I think Zane was reading the files from an ISO ima
Zane Healy wrote:
> On May 17, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
>> Zane,
>>
>> How about redirecting DECW$BOOKREADER to display on an X server elsewhere?
>>
>> $ SET DISPLAY /NODE=domain.name /TRANSPORT=TCPIP /CREATE
>> $ MCR DECW$BOOKREADER
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter Coghlan
>
On May 17, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
> Zane,
>
> How about redirecting DECW$BOOKREADER to display on an X server elsewhere?
>
> $ SET DISPLAY /NODE=domain.name /TRANSPORT=TCPIP /CREATE
> $ MCR DECW$BOOKREADER
>
> Regards,
> Peter Coghlan
I’m trying to make the files re
Zane Healy wrote:
> On May 17, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Malte Dehling wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:46:31PM -0700, Zane Healy wrote:
On May 16, 2021, at 5:51 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk
wrote:
I have now generated a contents listing for the CONOLD CDs:
https://arch
On May 17, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Malte Dehling wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:46:31PM -0700, Zane Healy wrote:
>>> On May 16, 2021, at 5:51 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk
>>> wrote:
>>> I have now generated a contents listing for the CONOLD CDs:
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/vms-conold-
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:46:31PM -0700, Zane Healy wrote:
> > On May 16, 2021, at 5:51 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk
> > wrote:
> > I have now generated a contents listing for the CONOLD CDs:
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/vms-conold-1989-03
> > https://archive.org/details/vms-conold-1989-
> On May 16, 2021, at 5:51 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 11:47:09AM +0200, Malte Dehling wrote:
>> I plan on updating the description for the CONOLD CDs with a list of
>> the books included. That probably means writing a script to extract
>> that informati
On 16/05/2021 21:53, Zane Healy wrote:
What exactly is VAX/VMS V5.5-2H4? I’ve never been too clear on that. It’s
just V5.5-2 with added hardware support, isn’t it?
Yes, that would seem to be the case:
|---|-|--||9|
|-
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:03 PM Zane Healy via cctalk
wrote:
>
> What exactly is VAX/VMS V5.5-2H4? I’ve never been too clear on that. It’s
> just V5.5-2 with added hardware support, isn’t it?
https://wiki.vmssoftware.com/OpenVMS
VIKING V5.5-2H4 July 26,1993
Limited Hardware Release based on V
On May 16, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Antonio Carlini wrote:
>
> On 16/05/2021 21:00, Zane Healy wrote:
>> Does anyone know if a 5.5-2 era CONOLD is available? These that have just
>> been made available are beyond awesome, as I gave my paper set of 5.x doc’s
>> to Paul Allen’s computer museum, only ke
On 16/05/2021 21:00, Zane Healy wrote:
Does anyone know if a 5.5-2 era CONOLD is available? These that have just been
made available are beyond awesome, as I gave my paper set of 5.x doc’s to Paul
Allen’s computer museum, only keeping the basic 6 paperbacks, since I have a
complete 6.x set, a
Does anyone know if a 5.5-2 era CONOLD is available? These that have just been
made available are beyond awesome, as I gave my paper set of 5.x doc’s to Paul
Allen’s computer museum, only keeping the basic 6 paperbacks, since I have a
complete 6.x set, and the base 7.2 set
I’m going to see abo
On 16/05/2021 13:51, Malte Dehling wrote:
I have now generated a contents listing for the CONOLD CDs:
https://archive.org/details/vms-conold-1989-03
https://archive.org/details/vms-conold-1989-07
That looks interesting: the fundamental VMS documentation is there, but
very little of the layered
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 11:47:09AM +0200, Malte Dehling wrote:
> I plan on updating the description for the CONOLD CDs with a list of
> the books included. That probably means writing a script to extract
> that information from the DECW$BOOKSHELF files.
I have now generated a contents listing for
On 14/05/2021 13:45, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
In the USA, it is not uncommon that a public library would have
such a CD/DVD rescue machine, too. Ask a librarian.
It's moot now (until I come across the next one, I guess). But given the
cost and the fact that I have a 100% hit rate right no
On 14/05/2021 13:40, Zane Healy wrote:
Much to my surprise, I think I’m actually more interested in the Online Doc
Library from ‘89 than in the CONDIST’s. It immediately made me think of
VTBOOK. As of tomorrow, I’ll be on an 8-week Sabbatical, and I’m going to have
to see about putting that
> On May 14, 2021, at 5:45 AM, John Foust via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> At 12:03 PM 4/17/2021, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs? I know one of
>> our local ones used to have a machine for resurfacing CDs, at the time, I
>> didnât need
At 12:03 PM 4/17/2021, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs? I know one of
>our local ones used to have a machine for resurfacing CDs, at the time, I
>didnât need to make use of the service. Another option might be used Video
>Game stores
> On May 14, 2021, at 3:08 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> There was the VTBOOK software on a DECUS release many years ago. It got
> stomped on for a while and then DEC gave up the fight against PDF and (I
> think) VTBOOK made it to the Freeware CD. That might help in working ou
On 14/05/2021 10:47, Malte Dehling wrote:
Perfect! Thanks so much :-) The first two are now also on archive, the
InfoServer CD will follow soon:
Excellent.
I plan on updating the description for the CONOLD CDs with a list of the
books included. That probably means writing a script to extra
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 08:18:33PM +0100, Antonio Carlini wrote:
> On 12/05/2021 13:58, Malte Dehling wrote:
> >
> > Here are the links to the relevant archive.org uploads:
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/vms-conold-1989-07
> > https://archive.org/details/vms-ad-condist-1989-07
> > https://ar
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:40:34AM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
> On 14/05/2021 00:19, Matt Burke via cctalk wrote:
> > You might want to have a look at http://de.openvms.org/spl.php
>
> Thanks, that looks really useful. I'll have to work out which updates to
> send him.
I talked to h
On 14/05/2021 00:19, Matt Burke via cctalk wrote:
You might want to have a look at http://de.openvms.org/spl.php
Thanks, that looks really useful. I'll have to work out which updates to
send him.
Some time ago I made a copy of this data in an SQLite database which
I've added some more ent
> On May 13, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Matt Burke via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 13/05/2021 20:18, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
>> Incidentally, I'm currently working through my OpenVMS VAX (and a few
>> Alpha) CONDIST CDROMs and pulling out all the CD_CONTENTS.DAT so I can
>> put together a script
On 13/05/2021 20:18, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
> Incidentally, I'm currently working through my OpenVMS VAX (and a few
> Alpha) CONDIST CDROMs and pulling out all the CD_CONTENTS.DAT so I can
> put together a script to build a list of which sets hold any given
> version of a product.
You m
On 12/05/2021 13:58, Malte Dehling wrote:
Here are the links to the relevant archive.org uploads:
https://archive.org/details/vms-conold-1989-07
https://archive.org/details/vms-ad-condist-1989-07
https://archive.org/details/vms-condist-1989-07
https://archive.org/details/vms-condist-1989-11
htt
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 02:52:26PM +0200, Malte Dehling wrote:
> > On 10/05/2021 10:05, Malte Dehling wrote:
> > > I think uploading them to archive.org would be a good long-term
> > > solution. I can take care of it if you don't have an account.
> >
> > Please do. Thanks.
>
> Will do. I'll let
(I had accidentally sent my reply below only to Antonio. I'm resending
it to the list.)
> On 10/05/2021 10:05, Malte Dehling wrote:
> > Thanks a lot, Antonio, these are very valuable to have!
> I've only checked a couple of them under SIMH, so it would be helpful to
> know if I need to check my
On 10/05/2021 10:05, Malte Dehling wrote:
Thanks a lot, Antonio, these are very valuable to have!
I've only checked a couple of them under SIMH, so it would be helpful to
know if I need to check my workflow or not.
I think uploading them to archive.org would be a good long-term
solution. I can
On Sun, May 09, 2021 at 10:23:19PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
> I've now uploaded: ag-mn36e-re.tar.xz, ag-nh37b-re.tar.xz and
> el-cdrom-01-rev-L.tar.xz.
>
> The full set now available are:
>
> AG-MN36E-RE - VMS Consolidated Software Distribution 1989-07 Disc 1 of 1
> AG-NC67C-RE -
I've now uploaded: ag-mn36e-re.tar.xz, ag-nh37b-re.tar.xz and
el-cdrom-01-rev-L.tar.xz.
The full set now available are:
AG-MN36E-RE - VMS Consolidated Software Distribution 1989-07 Disc 1 of 1
AG-NC67C-RE - VMS Online Documentation Library 1989-07 Disc 1 of 1
AG-NH36B-RE - VMS AD Softwa
On 18/04/2021 18:00, Antonio Carlini wrote:
I'm using a seven year old DVD-RW drive and a similarly aged DVD-ROM
drive. The results are the same in either case.
Life got in the way, as usual, but here are a few CDROMs to start with:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c1ttR83wt5Y4z4O9D
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 09:53:26PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
wrote:
> I've managed to reconstitute my SIMH config and I've checked out a few
> of the ISO files I managed to generate using ddrescue.
>
> The Mar 89 CONOLD and May 89 CONDIST do not even show up as media
> under Linux. If I ge
On 21/04/2021 22:13, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
I've just tried ANALYZE/DISK on VAXBINMAY931 which is the oldest I can
put a hand on right now and it gives exactly the same output as you got.
Thanks ... that's reassuring. Individual savesets can be tested with
BACKUP/LIST or (more extens
Antonio Carlini wrote:
The oldest working one is the 1989 July CONDIST, which read 99.99% with
ddrescue. It mounts quite happily and I can see the directory. ANA/DISK
complains slightly:
[
$ ana/disk dua3:
Analyze/Disk_Structure for _VAX072$DUA3: started on 21-APR-2021 21:11:34.25
%ANALDISK
I've managed to reconstitute my SIMH config and I've checked out a few
of the ISO files I managed to generate using ddrescue.
The Mar 89 CONOLD and May 89 CONDIST do not even show up as media under
Linux. If I get the chance I'll try out the Oxford GAME store polisher
for one at least of them.
On 17/04/2021 23:37, Jon Elson wrote:
On 04/17/2021 11:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data,
I'm all ears.
If by the "data side" you mean the clear side the CD is read from,
those can be polished with toothpaste or plas
On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 20:35, Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
> ddrescue
Agreed.
Important note: `ddrescue` is the newer tool and is more modern than
either `dd_rescue` or `gddrescue`. They are *NOT* the same tools under
different names.
GNU ddrescue or just `ddrescue` It is the preferred choice
On 04/17/2021 11:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to
recover data, I'm all ears.
If by the "data side" you mean the clear side the CD is read
from, those can be polished with toothpaste or plastic
polish. Modern CD/DVD drives are
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 08:33:59PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
> On 17/04/2021 19:35, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > > So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I
> > > should try to find something t
On 17/04/2021 19:35, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I
should try to find something that won't give up when the OS reports
an unreadable sector. Anyone have any suggestions?
dd
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 11:35:41AM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
>
> > So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I should
> > try to find something that won't give up when the OS reports an
> > unreadable sector. A
On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I should try to find something that won't give up when the OS reports an
unreadable sector. Anyone have any suggestions?
ddrescue
On 17/04/2021 18:03, Zane Healy wrote:
On Apr 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data,
I'm all ears.
Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs? I know
one of
On 4/17/21 1:03 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
On Apr 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
wrote:
If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data, I'm all
ears.
Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs? I know one of our
local ones used
On Apr 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
wrote:
>
> If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data, I'm all
> ears.
Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs? I know one of our
local ones used to have a machine for resurfacing CDs, at the
On 17/04/2021 16:53, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
On 4/17/2021 2:15 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk
wrote:
Whether VAXSET is on there or not, I would be very interested in
ISOs of
both of these either way!
If Antonio does n
On 4/17/2021 2:15 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk
wrote:
Whether VAXSET is on there or not, I would be very interested in ISOs of
both of these either way!
If Antonio does not mind sharing them a bit more widely, I would also like t
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Whether VAXSET is on there or not, I would be very interested in ISOs of
> both of these either way!
If Antonio does not mind sharing them a bit more widely, I would also like to
have ISOs of them. I'm interested in runni
Hi Antonio,
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 06:03:45PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
> On 16/04/2021 14:11, Malte Dehling via cctalk wrote:
> > If anyone has an early 1990 (or older) Consolidated Software
> > Distribution CD: that should contain VAXSET v7.0 and I would love to
> > obtain a co
On 16/04/2021 14:11, Malte Dehling via cctalk wrote:
I was informed of a typo: the version I have is VAXSET100, so v10.0. I
am still looking for earlier versions (v8.0 already requires VMS 5.x.)
If anyone has an early 1990 (or older) Consolidated Software
Distribution CD: that should contain VAX
Dear all,
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 02:13:58PM +0200, Malte Dehling wrote:
> I am looking for a version of the VAXSET Software Engineering Tools to
> run on (Micro)VMS 4.7. The oldest version I have found so far is
> VAXSET010 which requires VMS 5.3 to run (this was on CSD 1991/05.)
I was inform
Dear all,
I am looking for a version of the VAXSET Software Engineering Tools to
run on (Micro)VMS 4.7. The oldest version I have found so far is
VAXSET010 which requires VMS 5.3 to run (this was on CSD 1991/05.)
VAXSET is a bundle of the following components (and more in newer
versions):
- CM
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