What I was attempting to say in my post was that the first computer
store was a retail outlet that sold MICROCOMPUTERS, and/or PERSONAL
computers and/or SMALL computers all we could carry around without
doing physical detriment to one’s self.[I shopped at Canada's first
computer store on 44 Eg
Oops, misremembered: Altair 680.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Ian S. King wrote:
> I don't remember the exact date, but I was in high school which places it
> in the mid-1970s: there was a storefront called "The Retail Computer Store"
> that sold Altairs, IMSAIs, Chromemco and SWTPC. I real
I don't remember the exact date, but I was in high school which places it
in the mid-1970s: there was a storefront called "The Retail Computer Store"
that sold Altairs, IMSAIs, Chromemco and SWTPC. I really wanted the little
SWTP 680 - now, of course, they're sky high if you can find one.
Interest
On 07/26/2015 03:01 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
Yes, but they don't seem to sue folks who just create clones of
someone else's VID/PID.
I suspect the problem is more of trying to avoid the costs of
developing/adapting S/W for their particular device, which is why
they "clone" an existing device ra
> Well, given the difficulty of getting official values (USD 4k, per
> year(!), seems to be the cheapest option at the moment - certainly
> completely out of reach for anything hobbyist), this is hardly
> surprising.
Ahhh! So it is not a gentleman's agreement but a licensing scheme.
On 7/26/15 2:12 PM, Dave G4UGM wrote:
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The whole VID & PID wo
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> > The whole VID &
On 07/26/2015 01:52 PM, Ali wrote:
The whole VID & PID works because of "gentleman's agreements" (ie
use your own VID and don't pretend to be someone else's). It's not
clear how to solve this for folks that don't follow the rules.
If it is a gentleman's agreement (i.e. no licensing/certifica
>> [USB]
> And the proliferation of unofficial VID and PIDs seems to be an
> issue, [...]
Well, given the difficulty of getting official values (USD 4k, per
year(!), seems to be the cheapest option at the moment - certainly
completely out of reach for anything hobbyist), this is hardly
surprising.
> The whole VID & PID works because of "gentleman's agreements" (ie use
> your own VID and don't pretend to be someone else's). It's not clear
> how to solve this for folks that don't follow the rules.
If it is a gentleman's agreement (i.e. no licensing/certification fees) why
wouldn't people u
On 7/26/15 12:15 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 07/26/2015 06:12 AM, tony duell wrote:
Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after
it was introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 years after it was
introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for it.
I still call it
On 07/26/2015 06:12 AM, tony duell wrote:
Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after
it was introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 years after it was
introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for it.
I still call it 'Useless Serial Botch' most of the time. I
I find USB useful and with USB 3 pretty darn quick!
only downside it does not like to run 45.5 baud to run our 60 wpm UPI
Teletype machine
in the Journalism Display. Hey anyone have a AP Teletype we need one
in AP dress too!
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
>
> Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after it was
> introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2
> years after it was introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for
> it.
I still call it 'Useless Serial Botch' most of the time. It's not a bus, after
all.
-ton
Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after it was
introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 years after it was introduced that I
began to notice peripherals designed for it.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 24, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> ---and a USB port. :)
>
On 07/24/2015 06:41 PM, Mike Loewen wrote:
That's exactly what the Hollywood prop people do:
http://woodysprops.com/item.php?uid=133&page=6
These are from a Burroughs B205 system, and rigged up to spin the
reels and blink the lights.
Sometimes a prop is also a real, functioning computer:
h
On 7/24/2015 6:41 PM, Mike Loewen wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 07/24/2015 04:20 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 04:53:01PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> It's not a real computer unless it has a real front panel with
> switches and blinkenlights.
Ever wa
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 07/24/2015 04:20 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 04:53:01PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> It's not a real computer unless it has a real front panel with
> switches and blinkenlights.
Ever watch any old reruns of "Wonder Woman". Lots
On 07/24/2015 04:20 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 04:53:01PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
It's not a real computer unless it has a real front panel with
switches and blinkenlights.
Ever watch any old reruns of "Wonder Woman". Lots of blinkin' lights;
no computer. Or you could
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 04:53:01PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> It's not a real computer unless it has a real front panel with
> switches and blinkenlights.
+1 !
mcl
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 07/24/2015 01:18 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>> Now, obviously, the first "REAL" computer needed to have internet
>> connectivity.
> ---and a USB port. :)
It's not a real computer unless it has a real front panel with
switches and blinkenlights.
On 07/24/2015 01:18 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Now, obviously, the first "REAL" computer needed to have internet
connectivity.
---and a USB port. :)
--Chuck
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Richard Loken wrote:
Ah that was my question. I did not pay attention to computers at all until
1980 and it another five or more years before I had any interest something
that could be lifted by one man.
My interest is still largely confined to big iron.
I am sort of curious
A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It was
opened by Dick Heiser. How time has flown by!
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Paul Ko
right on!
In a message dated 7/24/2015 12:32:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ci...@xenosoft.com writes:
Yes, as usual, all such claims are meaningless without term definitions.
What Murray was referring to was arguably the first PERSONAL computer
store, and run as a retail storefront.
A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It was
opened by Dick Heiser. How time has flown by!
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Stefan
A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It was
opened by Dick Heiser. How time has flown by!
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Rich
On 07/24/2015 11:00 AM, Richard Loken wrote:
I am sort of curious about whether a computer store in 1975 sold only parts
and kits or whether assemble self supporting packages were starting to
appear. Was this still the era of the front panel and the S100 bus or had
they move onto stuff like the
On 2015-Jul-24, at 8:24 AM, william degnan wrote:
> Oh I don't know...I think these had some interest in 1975
> http://vintagecomputer.net/altair-poptronics.cfm
>
> Also take a look at the run of Byte mags published in 1975, plus
> People's Computer Company Newsletters from 1975.
We had a Byte Sh
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> I remember Paul Terrell opining the Byte Shop in late 1975. You could
> buy the MITS stuff as well as the Apple. Things were moving pretty
> quickly back then. I believe mention was made in an early MITS newsletter.
Ah that was my question. I did not
On 07/24/2015 08:24 AM, william degnan wrote:
Oh I don't know...I think these had some interest in 1975
http://vintagecomputer.net/altair-poptronics.cfm
I remember Paul Terrell opining the Byte Shop in late 1975. You could
buy the MITS stuff as well as the Apple. Things were moving pretty
q
ote:
> tor 2015-07-23 klockan 13:11 -0400 skrev Murray McCullough:
>> A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
>> the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
>> Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Stor
same time.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Stefan Skoglund
wrote:
> tor 2015-07-23 klockan 13:11 -0400 skrev Murray McCullough:
>> A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
>> the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
>
tor 2015-07-23 klockan 13:11 -0400 skrev Murray McCullough:
> A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
> the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
> Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It was
>
n Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Murray McCullough wrote:
>
>> A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
>> the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
>> Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It wa
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Murray McCullough wrote:
> A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
> the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
> Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It was
> opened b
> On Jul 23, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Murray McCullough
> wrote:
>
> A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
> the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
> Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Murray McCullough wrote:
A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It was
opened by Dick Heiser. How ti
A momentus event happened 40 years ago around this time, July 1975,
the world's first computer store opened in West Los Angeles, called
Arrow Head Computer Store, tag-lined, 'The Computer Store'. It was
opened by Dick Heiser. How time has flown by!
Murray :)
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