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On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 at 09:33, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > Liam, TriPOS ? > > If i'm not wrong it was a OS developed in Cambridge (Cambridgeshire). > > Did someone port it to other arch than ARM ? I am mystified. This appeared in a thread about the VCF SoCal and apropos of nothing with no quote.

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> On 02/21/2024 5:01 AM CST Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > > > > Did someone port it to other arch than ARM ? > The oldest version I know of ran on PDP11s. I am pretty sure there was > a 68000 version at one point too. > > -tony Wasn't the Amiga OS built on Tripos? Will Grownups never under

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On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 9:39 AM Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote: > > Liam, TriPOS ? > > If i'm not wrong it was a OS developed in Cambridge (Cambridgeshire). It was. The name came from the fact that a course at Cambridge University is called a Tripos. Originally written by Martin Richards (as in

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Liam, TriPOS ? If i'm not wrong it was a OS developed in Cambridge (Cambridgeshire). Did someone port it to other arch than ARM ?

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Thanks Sellam. Tickets can be purchased at the door. I’m sorry they’re having trouble. We’ve got a constant stream of ticket purchases coming through. Perhaps try another browser or on their mobile? Micki > On Feb 16, 2024, at 2:26 PM, Sellam Abraham wrote: > > Hi Micki. > > I'm passing alo

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Hi Micki. I'm passing along this message from Ali. Can you please help him? I checked the website and verified that there is no obvious way to contact anyone in the organization for regular communication. Forgive me if I overlooked something. Thank you. Sellam On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 1:25 PM Al

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> > One last question: > > > > Do kids get in free? If so what is the age cutoff? It looks like > > tickets are needed for everyone but figure I would check just in > case. > > > > Never mind... Important to read all the WAY to the END. LOL. Kids 12 > and under are free! Anybody successfully buy

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> One last question: > > Do kids get in free? If so what is the age cutoff? It looks like > tickets are needed for everyone but figure I would check just in case. > Never mind... Important to read all the WAY to the END. LOL. Kids 12 and under are free! -Ali

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One last question: Do kids get in free? If so what is the age cutoff? It looks like tickets are needed for everyone but figure I would check just in case. -Ali

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> > This VCF SoCal announcement just came into my mailbox this morning so > I'm > passing it along. > Great! Thanks for the info! -Ali

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On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 8:56 AM Ali via cctalk wrote: > > I have looked at the website for the event and I am still not sure if > there will be consignment/sales area. Can anyone verify if there is going > to be one or not? Thanks! > > -Ali > This VCF SoCal announcement just came into my mailbox t

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> I am certainly with you on that, Marvin. I have exhibited at 8 or 9 > VCFs (my first was VCF 3) and was on the mailing list as recently as > August 2023 (but apparently no more) and only happened to see the event > being discussed in this forum. Thanks to Wayne Sudol for posting the > informati

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jos wrote: >> I don't recall emulators for the early Datapoints.- > There now  is a Datapoint 2200 emulator > Be aware that it does not show the true Datapoint fonts. There is also an emulator for the 3300, with a font from an imaged ROM. It's in here: https://github.com/aap/vt05/ (The 3300 is o

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- I guess while I'm at it, I've also been seeking for a working Datapoint 2200 (or equivalent variant, any 1974 or earlier) or Wang 2200. Even just seeing either of those in working condition would be neat (working in terms of still booting to BASIC). I was surprised I didn't see one at VCF in

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. Odd that a VCF finally comes to my home turf and this is the one I only find out about two weeks in advance! -Original Message- Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 11:54:03 -0800 From: Marvin Johnston Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Message-ID: <3d8c71e2-1730-51ca-8

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On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 21:01, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: > > Note to those people too lazy to update their subject line... Oh come on, you can't say that and not quote properly. For just me, I intentionally don't do it. For better or worse, Gmail is the best webmail I know if, it does plai

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On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 10:26 AM Liam Proven via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:05, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > > Probably because Americans in Futtbuck, Idaho never heard of any British > > computers but Brits certainly knew about American computers,

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I had someone very seriously questioning me, over on Fesse Bouc, if I was serious when I said that the ZX Spectrum could remotely be considered a more significant machine than (one model of) TRS-80, and he was incredulous when I absolutely maintained the point. We had the Timex version of the Sp

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:15, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: > > BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have > never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured > programming. It’s honestly like a different language. Strongly concur

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:05, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > Probably because Americans in Futtbuck, Idaho never heard of any British > computers but Brits certainly knew about American computers, eh wot? Oh, yes, naturally! It is something of a national characteristic, though. I had someo

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:35, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: To answer a different part of the question that I missed first time around: > As an American it's true that the vast majority of my vintage computer > experience is completely americentric, but I'm aware that Acorn had a > significant pr

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:52, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > That would be very interesting. I always thought Apricot made some beasts and > remeber the cover of Byte for the first 486 system being an Apricot VX. I > would love to see that machine in person. I put one of those in. First and only SC

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:35, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: > Surely by this definition UNIX would take the crown? The "core of the OS" > dates from 1969 and modern derivatives are everywhere. Good point, but the OS I was referring to is RISC OS, *the* original ARM OS and it has only ever run on

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:40, Wouter de Waal via cctalk wrote: > Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting > ones were TERRIBLE! Oh, very good. I may quote that. :-D -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...

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On Wednesday, January 31st, 2024 at 10:04, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > Probably because Americans in Futtbuck, Idaho never heard of any British > computers but Brits certainly knew about American computers, eh wot? The only place many of us might (might) have heard of them was in the b

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> On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:52 AM, Henry Bent via cctalk > wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 at 09:37, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > >> >> >>> On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk < >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >>> >>> The Enter museum in Switzerland has a nice library of d

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 at 10:08, Paul Koning wrote: > > > > On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:52 AM, Henry Bent via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 at 09:37, Paul Koning via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>> On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk < > >> ccta

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iscussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Henry Bent Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 at 09:37, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > > On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > The Enter museu

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 at 09:37, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > > On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > The Enter museum in Switzerland has a nice library of docs. I found that > > museum to be chock full of interesting German and other com

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> On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk > wrote: > > The Enter museum in Switzerland has a nice library of docs. I found that > museum to be chock full of interesting German and other computers. Worth > the trip. > Bill Is any of that online? One frustrating thing about vario

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> In the UK context, where there is on-line documentation of the ICL 2900 > series is a question I don't know the answer to > There is of course an operational ICL 2966 at TNMoC, Bletchley Park Given the whole Post Office/Horizon scandal and that it was ICL that had the contract as they were abso

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On 1/31/2024 8:30 PM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: I suppose I should’ve specified “of the versions of BASIC I’ve ever heard anyone talk about still using this century.” :P Basic09 is probably still in use on OS9000. VAX BASIC is still in use on VMS ALPHA and Itanium and is abo

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I suppose I should’ve specified “of the versions of BASIC I’ve ever heard anyone talk about still using this century.” :P

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On 1/31/2024 1:14 PM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured programming. It’s honestly like a different language. Basic09? VAX BASIC? RST

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ICL 2966 at TNMoC, Bletchley Park > > > > Martin > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Paul Koning via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org] > > Sent: 31 January 2024 18:53 > > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > > Cc: Wouter de Waal ; Paul Koning &g

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote: I do remember reading that  lot of British computers were quite superior to the rest of the world, but sold for inland use only.  The reason given was that we couldn't figure out ow to make them leak oil! cheers, Nigel Did Lucas make co

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r de Waal ; Paul Koning Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Wouter de Waal via cctalk wrote: I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting were never available in the US. Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most int

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ccmp.org Cc: Wouter de Waal ; Paul Koning Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal > On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Wouter de Waal via cctalk > wrote: > > >> I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most >> interesting were never available in the US. > &

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> On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Wouter de Waal via cctalk > wrote: > > >> I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most >> interesting were never available in the US. > > Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting ones were > TERRIBLE! I wo

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I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting were never available in the US. Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting ones were TERRIBLE! W

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BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured programming. It’s honestly like a different language. > On Jan 31, 2024, at 12:05, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > right now I'm on a BB

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On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13 AM Liam Proven via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 14:23, Christopher Satterfield via cctalk > wrote: > > > > I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers. > > Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a C

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> On 01/31/2024 11:34 AM CST Henry Bent via cctalk > wrote: > > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 12:13, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > I write for an international audience and sometimes people from the > > USA are openly and repeatedly incredulous that "obscure" British > > computers -- that me

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(GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: Christopher Satterfield Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers.Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a Castle Iyonix, SinclairSpectru

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 12:13, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: I write for an international audience and sometimes people from the > USA are openly and repeatedly incredulous that "obscure" British > computers -- that means they've never heard of them -- can be > considered significant or important,

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 14:23, Christopher Satterfield via cctalk wrote: > > I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers. > Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a Castle Iyonix, Sinclair > Spectrum 48k and a Q68. Possibly static Apricot FP1/F1 if I can be bother

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I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers. Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a Castle Iyonix, Sinclair Spectrum 48k and a Q68. Possibly static Apricot FP1/F1 if I can be bothered to reassemble them despite their non-functional states.

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Wow, bummer. I'm staying with my sister in Upland so I'll be fine budget wise. Thanks. Sellam On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 6:47 PM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > 1000 feet from where I lived in Anaheim. needed this a few years ago, I > would have helped any way I could.

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1000 feet from where I lived in Anaheim.  needed this a few years ago, I would have helped any way I could.  Have fun. If you find the prices at the former Doubletree a bit much, there are probably lots of cheap deals near Mouse Central, just 1 1/2 miles north.  I recommend it if you haven't b

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On 1/25/24 15:44, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:37 PM Michael Mulhern via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: As a denizen of the antipodes I’ve heard about VCFSoCal, but maybe I’m more into the socials. Maybe VCF(etal) should be also sending notifications th

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Yes, good point! This is what I was talking about a little poster of shows this year: https://envs.sh/Fc7.png -andy diller > On Jan 26, 2024, at 9:05 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 07:30, Andrew Diller via cctalk > wrote: >> >> Hope

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 07:30, Andrew Diller via cctalk wrote: > > Hope this helps, I put it together to keep track of them all. I think you forgot something. There was no link or anything there, and the list doesn't allow attachments. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email

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??? On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:30 PM Andrew Diller via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Hope this helps, I put it together to keep track of them all. > > -andy > > > > On Jan 25, 2024, at 2:47 PM, Ali via cctalk > wrote: > > > > First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on th

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Hope this helps, I put it together to keep track of them all. -andy > On Jan 25, 2024, at 2:47 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali > Original message From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk > Date: 1/25/24 11:45 AM

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:37 PM Michael Mulhern via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > As a denizen of the antipodes I’ve heard about VCFSoCal, but maybe I’m more > into the socials. > > Maybe VCF(etal) should be also sending notifications through email lists > and boards. > I agree, they s

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As a denizen of the antipodes I’ve heard about VCFSoCal, but maybe I’m more into the socials. Maybe VCF(etal) should be also sending notifications through email lists and boards. Hoping anyone local(ish) to VCFSoCal can get there and have a great time. M. On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 8:33 am, Fred Ci

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First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: Forgive me, I should not have assumed everyone already knew about it. February 17-18 at the Hotel Fera Event Center in Orange, California. https://www.vcfsocal.com/ Calif

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Forgive me, I should not have assumed everyone already knew about it. February 17-18 at the Hotel Fera Event Center in Orange, California. https://www.vcfsocal.com/ Sellam On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:47 AM Ali via cctalk wrote: > First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?

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First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali Original message From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk Date: 1/25/24 11:45 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: Sellam Abraham Subject: [cctalk] VCF SoCal I'll be attending