The Enter museum in Switzerland has a nice library of docs. I found that
museum to be chock full of interesting German and other computers.  Worth
the trip.
Bill

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 7:02 PM Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I do remember reading that  lot of British computers were quite superior
> to the rest of the world, but sold for inland use only.  The reason
> given was that we couldn't figure out ow to make them leak oil!
> cheers,
> Nigel
>
>
> On 2024-01-31 14:05, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
> >   <<A related question would be how much work was done outside the USA
> and UK.  >>
> >
> > One standard work is "The First Computers : History and Architectures"
> > Ed Rojas, et al
> > MIT Press; 2002; ISBN 0-262-68137-4
> > US : 5 sections
> > Germany : 7 sections
> > UK : 5 sections
> > Japan : 2 sections
> > as an indication of activity
> >
> > <<similar questions could be asked about the amount of documentation
> preserved from various countries. >>
> >
> > In the UK context, where there is on-line documentation of the ICL 2900
> series is a question I don't know the answer to
> > There is of course an operational ICL 2966 at TNMoC, Bletchley Park
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Koning via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
> > Sent: 31 January 2024 18:53
> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> > Cc: Wouter de Waal <w...@dw.co.za>; Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Wouter de Waal via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the
> most interesting were never available in the US.
> >> Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting ones
> were TERRIBLE!
> > I wonder what fraction of early (before, say, 1955) computer work was
> done in the USA.  A substantial fraction no doubt, but perhaps not as large
> as one might guess.  A related question would be how much work was done
> outside the USA and UK.
> >
> > For that matter, similar questions could be asked about the amount of
> documentation preserved from various countries.  One difficulty, I think,
> is that resources like bitsavers have a large proportion of US material.
> Maybe because of the predominance of the work, maybe in part because of the
> distribution of collectors.  To pick one example, material -- even just a
> passing reference -- about the Philips PR8000 is very nearly nonexistent.
> And I see no trace of any other Dutch computer at all on Bitsavers.  True,
> some stuff can be found in places like the CWI archive, though searching
> that can be rather painful.
> >
> >       paul
> >
>
> --
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