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2024-09-03 Thread Kirk Davis via cctalk
At least he never started on his evil lair. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 3, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > Furthermore, he gave his money to himself (via his foundation) and then > used it to make gobs more money by forcing his shitty products onto the > world via gove

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2024-09-03 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Furthermore, he gave his money to himself (via his foundation) and then used it to make gobs more money by forcing his shitty products onto the world via government mandate, just like he did at Microsoft. Sellam On Tue, Sep 3, 2024, 2:24 PM Eric Korpela via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-09-03 Thread Eric Korpela via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 4:01 PM Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hasn't he promised to give his money away... Everyone gives away their money when they die. That's pretty much all he has promised to do. He already gave a large amount of money to himself (i.e. his fo

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 30, 2024, at 3:26 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 2024-08-30 12:00 p.m., Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: >>> Fred Cisin wrote: >>> We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. >>> >> TECO >> Don > Does anybody use that any more? Yes, I do. I even hav

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-30 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
I did use it, in my first job. Sometimes have an urge to go back to it but I seem to be too lazy. $$ On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 8:34 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2024-08-30 12:00 p.m., Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: > >> Fred Cisin wrote: > >> > >>> We have our own non-theological religious wars

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-30 Thread Don Stalkowski via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 01:26:48PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2024-08-30 12:00 p.m., Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: > > > Fred Cisin wrote: > > > > > > > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. > > > > > > > TECO > > > > Don > Does anybody use that any more

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-30 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-08-30 12:00 p.m., Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: Fred Cisin wrote: We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. TECO Don Does anybody use that any more?

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-30 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-08-29 1:53 p.m., Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 29/08/2024 17:27, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: The solution is right in front of us.   One of us here has to become a multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff!  Let the fighting and bickering begin! Any idea

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-30 Thread Don Stalkowski via cctalk
> Fred Cisin wrote: > > > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. > TECO Don

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2024-08-30 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
Fred Cisin wrote: > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. sed. Enough sed. -Rick

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2024-08-30 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
Glen S. wrote: > Jane, get me off this crazy list. How many here catch this reference? Very nice, Glenvery nice. -Rick

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2024-08-30 Thread The Doctor via cctalk
On Thursday, August 29th, 2024 at 16:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of > money, and then "buy your way into heaven" by doing good deeds with a > large part of the money. Look at the Carnegie libraries. Good deeds cost money.

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-30 Thread The Doctor via cctalk
On Thursday, August 29th, 2024 at 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. edlin. The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ Don't be mean. You don't have to be mean.

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 9:16 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > We can unsubscribe? > > No -Once you give your email over, it's there forever :-) > > Kindest regards, > > Doug Jackson 1997 OG ClassicCmp'er represent. Sellam > >

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
I vote for cat. Julf On 30/08/2024 04:02, cz via cctalk wrote: ED! ED MAN! MAN ED! Ed is the standard text editor.. On 8/29/2024 9:50 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk wrote: On 8/29/24 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [snip] We have our own non-theological religious war

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
We can unsubscribe? No -Once you give your email over, it's there forever :-) Kindest regards, Doug Jackson em: d...@doughq.com ph: 0414 986878 Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 at 13:49, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > Help. Unsubscibe. Jane, get me off

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
Help. Unsubscibe. Jane, get me off this crazy list.

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> Ed's dead baby. Ed's dead. Dave? Dave's not here, man. mcl

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: Apple II vs. IBM PC vs. Commodore 64 vs. Atari 800 vs Radio Shack TRS-80 vs... DOSPLUS vs NEWDOS-80 Electric Pencil vs. Scripsit Pre-CP/M Electric Pencil vs TRS80 releas

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 6:29 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. > > -- > Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com Apple II vs. IBM PC vs. Commodore 64 vs. Atari 800 vs Radio Shack TRS-80 vs... Sellam

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 9:02 PM cz via cctalk wrote: > > ED! > > ED MAN! Ed's dead baby. Ed's dead.

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread cz via cctalk
ED! ED MAN! MAN ED! Ed is the standard text editor.. On 8/29/2024 9:50 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk wrote: On 8/29/24 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [snip] We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. Now you've done it ;)

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Christian Kennedy via cctalk
On 8/29/24 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [snip] We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. Now you've done it ;) -- Christian Kennedy, Ph.D. ch...@mainecoon.com AF6AP | DB0692 | PG00029419 http://www.mainecoon.comPGP KeyID 108DAB97 PGP finger

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
And then there's the story in the bible about Jesus throwing the people selling indulgences (and other things) out of the temple?😮 That kind of thing has been going on for thousands of years.  It predates Catholicism but became a part of the Catholic Church in the 11th and 12 centuries. This

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Carnegie (and Gates) were only figuratively "buying their way into heaven". I don't think that either did it for religious reasons. Although most would assume that it is a religious issue, that was not my intent. The specific example that I gave is non-religious. "I have learned that no goo

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/29/2024 2:46 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he collects? He might collect something but I doubt it has anything to do with computers. I don't think he ever had any interest in computers other than as a means to get rich. And at the time he s

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Hasn't he promised to give his money away... Yes He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of money, and then "buy your way into heaven" by doing good deeds with a large part of the money. Look at the Carnegie libraries. On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Paul Koning wrote: In a

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 29, 2024, at 7:21 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: >> Hasn't he promised to give his money away... > > Yes > He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of money, > and then "buy your way into heaven

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: Hasn't he promised to give his money away... Yes He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of money, and then "buy your way into heaven" by doing good deeds with a large part of the money. Look at the Carnegie lib

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
Hasn't he promised to give his money away... Dave > -Original Message- > From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 7:55 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Cc: Wayne S ; Sellam Abraham > > Subject: [cctalk]

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 29/08/2024 17:27, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: The solution is right in front of us.   One of us here has to become a multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff!  Let the fighting and bickering begin! Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? Let me start by saying

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 08/29/2024 2:56 PM EDT Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > > > I know and he’s good at it! > Besides money though. > Sent from my iPhone > politicians > On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:55, Sellam Abraham wrote: > > > > Yes, he collects money. > > Sellam > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:54 AM Wayne S

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I know and he’s good at it! Besides money though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:55, Sellam Abraham wrote:  Yes, he collects money. Sellam On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:54 AM Wayne S via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he colle

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Yes, he collects money. Sellam On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:54 AM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he collects? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:11, ben via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 2024-08-29 11:59 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >>

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he collects? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:11, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 2024-08-29 11:59 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? >> For a few decades, we have been saying that >> "We must do

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-08-29 11:59 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? For a few decades, we have been saying that "We must do whatever it takes to make Bill Gates into a millionaire." it is called TAX!

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-08-29 10:27 a.m., Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: The solution is right in front of us.   One of us here has to become a multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff!  Let the fighting and bickering begin! Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? Doug Find a billio

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? For a few decades, we have been saying that "We must do whatever it takes to make Bill Gates into a millionaire."

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
>> Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? > > The joke doesn't work as well this way, but the old Texas joke > was "how do you become a Texas oil millionaire? Start by being > a Texas oil billionaire." Insert Ross Perot joke here. -- personal: http://ww

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? The joke doesn't work as well this way, but the old Texas joke was "how do you become a Texas oil millionaire? Start by being a Texas oil billionaire." mcl

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
The solution is right in front of us.   One of us here has to become a multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff!  Let the fighting and bickering begin! Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? Doug

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread brad via cctalk
--From: Mike Katz via cctalk Date: 2024-08-29 9:04 a.m. (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: Mike Katz Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction Unless the museum has an large enough endowment to take care of itself and grow it will fail.I'm s

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > > Maybe we need a new law, we will call it Allen's law and it is directly > related to Moore's law. As computers become obsolete faster and faster > the space, time and money to preserve them increases respectively. > > > ooo! That's good! Bill

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Unless the museum has an large enough endowment to take care of itself and grow it will fail. I'm sure even the Smithsonian discards items that is can no longer afford to house.  And that is after it has sat in storage for years. Whether publicly, privately or government funded expenses and t

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 29, 2024, at 10:45 AM, John Foust via cctalk > wrote: > > At 07:11 AM 8/29/2024, cz via cctalk wrote: >> The purpose of a museum is to destroy history. > > Ridiculous. Do the math. If there was a computer so magical and historically > significant because only 100 of them were made

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 07:11 AM 8/29/2024, cz via cctalk wrote: >The purpose of a museum is to destroy history. Ridiculous. Do the math. If there was a computer so magical and historically significant because only 100 of them were made, and 95 of them were scrapped long ago by individual and corporate owners, and

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 29, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 8/29/2024 8:11 AM, cz via cctalk wrote: >>> Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare >>> artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for >>> themselves. >> Nev

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 5:12 AM cz via cctalk wrote: > > Then when the ignorant mobs come they have a single place to torch to > remove the heresy and treason counter to the current "beliefs". And it's > all gone. > ...visions of the Computer History Museum being sacked by Mostly Peaceful protesto

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/29/2024 8:11 AM, cz via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for themselves. Never have been. If there is one thing in life I have learned it's that the purpose of a museu

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread cz via cctalk
Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for themselves. Never have been. If there is one thing in life I have learned it's that the purpose of a museum is not to preserve history. The purpose of

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread osi.superboard via cctalk
Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for themselves. See Paul Allen’s Living Computers: Museum article. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/paul-allens-living-computers-museum-labs-will-cl

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-28 Thread John Herron via cctalk
Fool me once... (Jk but ironic museum suggestion given the subject). On Tue, Aug 27, 2024, 1:14 PM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Keep it preserved somewhere. > Out of sunlight and maybe in a container of some sort. Might want to > consult a museum about preservation. Is the market hot for publicat

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-28 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I would because in 5 years i could sell it for 2 million! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2024, at 11:49, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > >  > >> On 8/27/2024 10:10 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2024, 5:33 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> $3400

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/27/2024 10:10 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2024, 5:33 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: $3400 for the premier issue of Mac World? Who would pay that much for this? Bill That's pretty much what I'm thinking for the vast majority of this stuff. The Altair 8800

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-27 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Keep it preserved somewhere. Out of sunlight and maybe in a container of some sort. Might want to consult a museum about preservation. Is the market hot for publications? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2024, at 10:29, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > Keep it wrapped and sell it. You

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-27 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Keep it wrapped and sell it. You can read it online. Sellam On Tue, Aug 27, 2024, 9:39 AM osi.superboard via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I do have a 1975 Byte#1 issue magazine unopened in its original Byte > mailing paper wrap. > > Should be worth a few more pennies to read this iss

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-27 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
I once had a copy of the very first byte magazine, personally handed to me by the original publisher, Wayne Green, W2NSD, as I had just signed up for a one-year subscription. I hesitated to sign up for a year because Wayne had two previous magazine failures, RPT magazine and FM magazine. App

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-27 Thread osi.superboard via cctalk
I do have a 1975 Byte#1 issue magazine unopened in its original Byte mailing paper wrap. Should be worth a few more pennies to read this issue for the first time. Or should I ? On 27.08.2024 15:10, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2024, 5:33 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-27 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024, 5:33 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > $3400 for the premier issue of Mac World? Who would pay that much for > this? > Bill > That's pretty much what I'm thinking for the vast majority of this stuff. The Altair 8800 issue of Poptronics sold for arounda K. A lot of this

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-23 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
The moneyed collector world is a lot different than us people who collect and like to fix and see things run again. The reason that item sold for that high a price is because the buyer “could afford to pay that price”. In other words “because i can”. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2024, at 0

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-23 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Doug, I will call Sallam in a little bit. Thank you,   Mike On 8/23/2024 8:23 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Aug 17, 2024, at 7:17 PM, John Herron via cctalk wrote: I still remember how amazing it was to watch the Linc-8 at VCF (west) 10 being troubleshot by previous develo

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 17, 2024, at 7:17 PM, John Herron via cctalk > wrote: > > I still remember how amazing it was to watch the Linc-8 at VCF (west) 10 > being troubleshot by previous developers. I swear I stood there (trying to > be out of the way) longer than most exhibits just in amazement how they >

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-23 Thread cz via cctalk
A Space Command remote control went for $1200.. Yeah, why not? On 8/23/2024 8:07 AM, Christian Liendo via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:28 AM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: I think this sale might propel computer collecting into a parallel market now occupied by car collectors. In c

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-23 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 8:07 AM Christian Liendo via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:28 AM Wayne S via cctalk > wrote: > > I think this sale might propel computer collecting into a parallel > market now occupied by car collectors. > > In car collecting, not all

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-23 Thread Christian Liendo via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:28 AM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > I think this sale might propel computer collecting into a parallel market now > occupied by car collectors. > In car collecting, not all cars are classic collectibles, but are worth more > than scrap value because of condition, hobbyist

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-17 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Word got around. Most aren’t gonna bid because of price but they’ll watch prices because a lot of people have the same systems. After this auction, you’ll see a bunch of stuff on eBay had even more astronomical prices than they’re currently asking. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2024, at 16

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-17 Thread John Herron via cctalk
I still remember how amazing it was to watch the Linc-8 at VCF (west) 10 being troubleshot by previous developers. I swear I stood there (trying to be out of the way) longer than most exhibits just in amazement how they were looking at map size schematics and running test programs that still felt l

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-17 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I think this sale might propel computer collecting into a parallel market now occupied by car collectors. In car collecting, not all cars are classic collectibles, but are worth more than scrap value because of condition, hobbyist wanting to fix up or maybe sentimentality. Think a Volkswagen bu

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-17 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 8/16/24 23:13, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 10:18 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 8/16/24 11:44, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:01 PM Kevin Anderson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: I am surprised they have the estimated

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-17 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Fri, 16 Aug 2024, Sellam Abraham wrote: I know where one is in Los Angeles (or was as of the early 2000s...hopefully this one isn't it). Back in 2002, when I visited San Diego, there was a LGP-30 and LGP-21 in the Computermuseum of America. I have no idea where the stuff is now. Christian

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 10:18 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 8/16/24 11:44, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:01 PM Kevin Anderson via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> I am surprised they have the estimated opening bids amounts for the DEC > >>

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
Such an incredible collection, wish I could have visited years ago in its prime presentation. So many great artifacts, at least fairly certain they'll go to good homes. The LINC-8 and Micral-N in particular appeal to me - but I'm in no position to bid on anything this year. If anyone does know

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 8/16/24 11:44, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:01 PM Kevin Anderson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: I am surprised they have the estimated opening bids amounts for the DEC PDP-10 systems, as well as the IBM 7090, set so low. They can't be that numerous e

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:01 PM Kevin Anderson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I am surprised they have the estimated opening bids amounts for the DEC > PDP-10 systems, as well as the IBM 7090, set so low. They can't be that > numerous either. But then again, still too costly for anot

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 2:13 PM Mark Linimon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > one is an LGP-30. I can't tell how complete it is, but it doesn't look > too beat up. > > I dare to bet it's the last one. Anywhere. > > mcl > I know where one is in Los Angeles (or was as of the early 2

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Paul Koning wrote: >> It probably came from CompuServe, and it would have been running some >> of CompuServe's software; user interface, database, I don't know. > Yes, I believe the description says so. I was wondering if it could > run any DEC software, in particular any DEC OS. Or other interes

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 16, 2024, at 3:49 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > > Paul Koning wrote: >> Does anyone know what that SC40 ("PDP-10 clone") can do? It seems to >> support SCSI I/O devices, interesting. What software, if any, might >> run on that? > > It probably came from CompuServe, and it would have

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 15, 2024, at 9:44 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 2024-08-15 7:39 p.m., cz via cctalk wrote: >> Eh, it will go for what it goes. Try and keep in mind how tough it was to >> keep a 1010 running in 1995. Then add 30 years to that. >> The thought of tracking down a bad flip flop on a t

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
One was on ebay and sold a while back. They're more common than a LINC or Varian mini,etc. On Fri, Aug 16, 2024, 9:08 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2024, Mark Linimon wrote: > > I dare to bet it's the last one. Anywhere. > > Why? I know of at lea

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Aug 2024, Mark Linimon wrote: I dare to bet it's the last one. Anywhere. Why? I know of at least four in Europe, but there are more I think. And then all the LGP-30s in the US (are there any functional ones BTW?) One of the Europeans is ours ;-) Christian

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-16 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Paul Koning wrote: > Does anyone know what that SC40 ("PDP-10 clone") can do? It seems to > support SCSI I/O devices, interesting. What software, if any, might > run on that? It probably came from CompuServe, and it would have been running some of CompuServe's software; user interface, database,

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-08-15 7:52 p.m., cz via cctalk wrote: True, but back then things were designed to fixed and tested. Sure, and they can still be fixed, transistors are quite common. But after repairing a pair of pdp8/L's, and a pdp8/I I really have to say it's a bit of a serious job. And the 10 is lik

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread cz via cctalk
True, but back then things were designed to fixed and tested. Sure, and they can still be fixed, transistors are quite common. But after repairing a pair of pdp8/L's, and a pdp8/I I really have to say it's a bit of a serious job. And the 10 is like. a billion times more stuff C

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-08-15 7:39 p.m., cz via cctalk wrote: Eh, it will go for what it goes. Try and keep in mind how tough it was to keep a 1010 running in 1995. Then add 30 years to that. The thought of tracking down a bad flip flop on a thousand flip chip boards really makes me think "yow". True, but b

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread cz via cctalk
Eh, it will go for what it goes. Try and keep in mind how tough it was to keep a 1010 running in 1995. Then add 30 years to that. The thought of tracking down a bad flip flop on a thousand flip chip boards really makes me think "yow". CZ On 8/15/2024 7:01 PM, Kevin Anderson via cctalk wrote:

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 15, 2024, at 7:01 PM, Kevin Anderson via cctalk > wrote: > > I am surprised they have the estimated opening bids amounts for the DEC > PDP-10 systems, as well as the IBM 7090, set so low. They can't be that > numerous either. But then again, still too costly for another museum to ju

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 15, 2024, at 7:01 PM, Kevin Anderson via cctalk > wrote: > > I am surprised they have the estimated opening bids amounts for the DEC > PDP-10 systems, as well as the IBM 7090, set so low. They can't be that > numerous either. But then again, still too costly for another museum to j

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread Kevin Anderson via cctalk
I am surprised they have the estimated opening bids amounts for the DEC PDP-10 systems, as well as the IBM 7090, set so low. They can't be that numerous either. But then again, still too costly for another museum to just pick them up. I had selfishly hoped to see my donated mid-1980s Zenith PC

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> I dare to bet it's the last one. Anywhere. Well. Now that my *rage* has settled down a bit ... ... a least the "expected amount" on these items will probably mean they won't go to scrap. The machines are probably going to go for less than a million. There are _thousands_ of people in this c

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> one is an LGP-30. I can't tell how complete it is, but it doesn't look too > beat up. I dare to bet it's the last one. Anywhere. mcl

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
One of the items listed is "A group of six calculators". Most of them are calculators, but one is an LGP-30. I can't tell how complete it is, but it doesn't look too beat up. paul

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 15, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk > wrote: > > Christies lot listings for the Paul Allen / LCM stuff are now up. > Pretty sad to see such a collection of notable items broken up. > > The web presentation is a little confusing. I think it breaks down like this: > ...

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-15 Thread Eric Korpela via cctalk
On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 4:47 PM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Get an attorney. They will respond more quickly to an attorney. You’ll > have to provide proof of your claims, though. This is one reason that long term loans of historical artifacts are sometimes used with museums rather than gifts.

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-15 Thread cz via cctalk
Who'll then convert it or embed in pieces into a furniture set to impress guests, because why not. Sigh. To be honest, Elon was the other person who was really interested in AI, and now that I think about it he may have been a better custodian. I mean sure: He would have just stuck it on t

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-15 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
k < > >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: > Wayne > >> S Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and > >> Off-Topic Posts" , Wayne S < > wayne.su...@hotmail.com> > >> Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-15 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
From: Wayne S via cctalk < >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: Wayne >> S Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and >> Off-Topic Posts" , Wayne S >> Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice The estate should just have >

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-15 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > I'm definitely a bit sad that Purdue's former CDC 6500 (priming that's what > they meant) will probably go to some unknown high dollar bidder. Who'll then convert it or embed in pieces into a furniture set to impress guests, because why

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-14 Thread Michael Kerpan via cctalk
org> Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: Wayne > S Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts" , Wayne S > Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice The estate should just have > given the collection or parts of it directly to the charities if the

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-14 Thread brad via cctalk
al message From: Wayne S via cctalk Date: 2024-07-14 5:59 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: Wayne S Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" , Wayne S Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice The estate should just have given the collection or parts of it directly to

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-14 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
The estate should just have given the collection or parts of it directly to the charities if the charities were equipped to dispose of it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2024, at 17:56, Wayne S wrote: > > Yes, but you still have to do the paperwork. Declare the revenue you got for > it an

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