Carnegie (and Gates) were only figuratively "buying their way into heaven". I don't think that either did it for religious reasons.

Although most would assume that it is a religious issue, that was not my intent. The specific example that I gave is non-religious.

"I have learned that no good can ever come from starting a discussion of politics, religion, or the Great Pumpkin." - Linus

We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs.

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Mike Katz wrote:

And then there's the story in the bible about Jesus throwing the people selling indulgences (and other things) out of the temple?😮

That kind of thing has been going on for thousands of years.  It predates Catholicism but became a part of the Catholic Church in the 11th and 12 centuries.

This is not intended to start a theological discussion in any way shape or form.  I was just mentioning that buying your salvation has been a part of mankind for a long time.

On 8/29/2024 7:01 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Hasn't he promised to give his money away...

Yes
He is a follower of Carnegie.  Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of money, and then "buy your way into heaven" by doing good deeds with a large part of the money.  Look at the Carnegie libraries.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Paul Koning wrote:
In an earlier century, those schemes were called "indulgences" and were one of the main causes of the Reformation.

Martin Luther's post on the church door was, of course, completely inadequate to put an end to indulgences.

And there are other sorts of them still being created.  "Solar Renewable Energy Certificates" seem like an indulgence market.

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