On 10/19/2015 07:35 AM, Chris Elmquist wrote:
If we were to do these again, today, we'd need to farm out the work
to a production shop for better, more reproducible results I think.
Find a shop with a wire EDM rig--it shouldn't take too long to spit a
jig out.
--Chuck
A1 is rather nice, they had lots of neat stuff last time I was there... Don't
remember anything terminal-ey though.
-Brian
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To: General Discussion: On-Topi
On 10/19/2015 06:05 PM, Charles Dickman wrote:
The farmers I know aren't any different than thier grandfathers.
Modern technology just makes them much more productive.
"Farmer" can mean different things, for instance, growing stuff up by
Booneville. (right, Fred?)
--Chuck
At 01:10 PM 10/19/2015, ben wrote:
Since the original email was running simh, does not the emulator have
the hardware floating point as a option, so you can free up a bit more
memory?.
I don't think there's any way to re-purpose the memory used by the FPP
emulator. And, to be honest, when run
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>> Does it correlate with the decline of actual FARMING?
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Charles Dickman wrote:
>>
>> FARMING hasn't declined, only the number of farmers.
>> (Not a farmer, but surrounded by them.)
>
>
> Is modern "agribusiness" really
Does it correlate with the decline of actual FARMING?
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Charles Dickman wrote:
FARMING hasn't declined, only the number of farmers.
(Not a farmer, but surrounded by them.)
Is modern "agribusiness" really "farming"?
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Does it correlate with the decline of actual FARMING?
FARMING hasn't declined, only the number of farmers.
(Not a farmer, but surrounded by them.)
At 07:07 AM 10/19/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
By the way, could you describe how you managed to squeeze some memory
from ADVENT? And if the first free location is 7, then it sounds
like it would be possible to run in 28K.
The primary way to cut memory usage was recoding the main functio
On 2015-10-19 23:11, jwsmobile wrote:
On 10/19/2015 12:39 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you
mine. Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the
"conversion" was basically a no-work. Programming proms is something I
have sp
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Subject: Re: Looking for Serial Terminals
On 2015-10-19 6:11 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
I've got a few (ADM-11, several Falco models)
but
On 2015-10-19 6:11 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
I've got a few (ADM-11, several Falco models) but would have to check to
see which ones (if any) are still working; if you're patient, contact me
off-list.
You could also have a look through A-1 Electronics on North Queen; never
know what you'll find ther
I have a few extra VT 300s. I'm not sure of the exact model, I'll need to check
on the weekend. I'm in Oshawa, contact me off line if interested.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Brian Adams wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I've been wanting to get a nice serial terminal to use wit
a decent deal for a new terminal
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-55-Terminal-NEW-Green-Terminal-/151828013094?hash=item2359a7a026:g:wPkAAOSwjVVVoAQY
lot more used on ebay too
On 10/19/2015 11:16 AM, Brian Adams wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I've been wanting to get a nice serial terminal to use with my old
I've got a few (ADM-11, several Falco models) but
would have to check to see which ones (if any) are
still working; if you're patient, contact me
off-list.
You could also have a look through A-1 Electronics
on North Queen; never know what you'll find there.
mike
- Original Message
Hi there,
I've been wanting to get a nice serial terminal to use with my old systems
(mostly UNIX) for a while now, but I haven't managed to find anything locally.
Over the past few years I've been to thrifts, garage sales, surplus shops...
But I haven't found any. This sort of surprises me, as
On 10/19/2015 12:39 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you
mine. Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the
"conversion" was basically a no-work. Programming proms is something I
have spent more time than I can count on, an
On 19/10/2015 20:24, jwsmobile wrote:
On 10/19/2015 12:03 PM, Glen Slick wrote:
The 23-261E5 / 23-262E5 firmware images for the M7554 11/53 are
available on Pete's DECROM archive.
http://www.dunnington.info/public/DECROMs/
Thanks, Glen!
Glen beat me to it :-)
--
Pete
Pete Turnbull
Word comes in that there is a number of "cartons" of Sun 4 and HP QIC
tapes in the pile, which I'm hoping may be install media. Bad news is
that it is QIC and in the place it is in. Good news is that it surfaced
at all.
I will see if Al or someone can image them if they are of interest. The
Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you mine.
Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the "conversion"
was basically a no-work. Programming proms is something I have spent
more time than I can count on, and is so routine that I don't even think
about it.
On 10/19/2015 12:03 PM, Glen Slick wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM, jwsmobile wrote:
That is basically what I said. I don't have one that isn't part of a
DecServer and i need images, or someone with a non DecServer to provide
them.
I guess you restated what I said. if you have one,
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM, jwsmobile wrote:
>
> That is basically what I said. I don't have one that isn't part of a
> DecServer and i need images, or someone with a non DecServer to provide
> them.
>
> I guess you restated what I said. if you have one, I'd appreciate copies.
>
The 23-26
> From: Diane Bruce
>> There was a version on the V6 PDP11 Unix at MIT; not sure if that was
>> a local port, or one we picked up from somewhere else.
> There was a hack for PDP11 Unix which added RT-11 compatibility
> syscalls to the kernel. (UofT Spencer)
The PDP-11 Unix ma
I have a decserver 550 CPU converted to a real KDJ. It's as simple as new ROMS
and one resistor. I also removed the s-box bracket to fit my chassis. Runs BSD
2.11 just fine (RQDX3 disks)
Joe
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:28 PM, jwsmobile wrote:
>
> I would appreciate thoughts on the conversion o
On 10/19/2015 10:03 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Not sure what you expect a "conversion" means. Creating new PROMs
imply finding actual proms, a prom programmer, the code to program
into the PROMs, and then just replace the proms on the card.
Only the last piece will actually require any modifi
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> On 2015-10-19 20:43, Paul Koning wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote:
...
CTERM was an attempt to wrap a single protocol around the terribly
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Diane Bruce wrote:
> There was a hack for PDP11 Unix which added RT-11 compatibility syscalls
> to the kernel. (UofT Spencer) Thus games compiled for RT-11 would
> run on PDP-11 and VAX-11 (in PDP-11 compatilibty mode) Unix.
Ooh... I'd love to see that. I've fidd
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 02:37:08PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Ben Franchuk
>
> > Did advent run under PDP11 unix?
>
> There was a version on the V6 PDP11 Unix at MIT; not sure if that was a local
> port, or one we picked up from somewhere else.
There was a hack for PDP11 Unix w
On 2015-10-19 20:43, Paul Koning wrote:
On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote:
...
CTERM was an attempt to wrap a single protocol around the terribly inconsistent
semantics of the terminal drivers in all the DEC operating systems, and to
Definitely recall "disk farm" being used at Pan American Airways data center
in the early 1970s, perhaps earlier to describe other large IBM/Memorex
customers. The term appears in print in a 1983 Datamation and a 1989 Compaq
product brochure
Tom
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From: Chuck Guzis [mail
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote:
>> ...
>> CTERM was an attempt to wrap a single protocol around the terribly
>> inconsistent semantics of the terminal drivers in all the DEC operating
>> systems, and to export as much as possib
> From: Ben Franchuk
> Did advent run under PDP11 unix?
There was a version on the V6 PDP11 Unix at MIT; not sure if that was a local
port, or one we picked up from somewhere else.
Noel
On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote:
On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 16:32, Paul Koning wrote:
On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in
the terminal server line. But
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> On 2015-10-19 16:32, Paul Koning wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in
>>> the terminal server line. But it looks like it is
On 10/18/15 6:00 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
it's truly amazing that Memorex still exists--as a brand of Imation.
Thank Ella Fitzgerald
"Is it live, or is it Memorex"
http://www.totalmedia.com/content/trivia-and-tips/maxells-chair-man-hell-blow-you-away-part-1.html
there is a cool video in the hackaday link below
http://hackaday.com/2015/10/19/repairing-55000-of-vintage-core-memory/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=FeedBurner+user+view
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On 10/19/2015 11:04 AM, Charles wrote:
Anyhow it does now run (on both the console and the other time-sharing
terminal). Thanks for the information, though.
-Charles
Did advent run under PDP11 unix?
Ben.
On 10/19/2015 8:56 AM, Rick Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Unless I remember wrong, the space for device drivers is already
reserved in FRTS...?
Yes. For normal device assignment, you use the command decoder to assign
unit numbers to files, which loads the handler
My reply didn’t show up for some reason... resubmitting:
It should directly in TSX-Plus . Make sure your current memory limit is
56K.
See below for my attempt. BTW TSX should only use RT11 to “boot”.
TSX doesn’t run over RT11SJ in this version. TSX replaces all the OS code.
.sh memory
….
Not sure what you expect a "conversion" means. Creating new PROMs imply
finding actual proms, a prom programmer, the code to program into the
PROMs, and then just replace the proms on the card.
Only the last piece will actually require any modification of the card,
and I would expect them to be
I would appreciate thoughts on the conversion of the processor to normal
PDP11 eproms.
The page pointed to earlier has a mention of that too, but the poster
had access to another "real" KDJ and I am guessing copied that.
I don't have access to any version of the system with appropriate eproms
On 2015-10-19 16:32, Paul Koning wrote:
On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in
the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a
PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Prett
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Unless I remember wrong, the space for device drivers is already reserved in
FRTS...?
Yes. For normal device assignment, you use the command decoder to assign
unit numbers to files, which loads the handlers for same.
Adventure uses the USR routi
On Monday (10/19/2015 at 10:20AM -0400), Steven Hirsch wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Chris Elmquist wrote:
>
> >The photos are of the 10-hole punch. We also did a 16-hole as Dwight
> >has mentioned and he as a few of those still available.
> >
> >Dwight, I double checked the metal and we're both
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in
> the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a
> PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice.
Yep. It's essentially an
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
>
> Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in
> the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a
> PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice.
It's been a while, but
We need to be able to do 32 sector 8" floppies :)
J
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Chris Elmquist wrote:
The photos are of the 10-hole punch. We also did a 16-hole as Dwight
has mentioned and he as a few of those still available.
Dwight, I double checked the metal and we're both mis-remembering.
It's not aluminum or stainless but just tool steel that Rus
On Sunday (10/18/2015 at 03:26PM -0700), Fred Cisin wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
> >I can see that Antenna Farms is an older term, dating back to at least 1950,
> >but of course as antenna's are usually in fields..
>
> It gradually evolved from agricultural to ANYTHING,
> and the
Hey Guys--
Sorry for the delay getting this out there. I finally found the
documentation package I had put together back in 2010 and it's now on
my GDrive here,
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6A73VHTVh23MS1MVERNcUZkd1U
The photos are of the 10-hole punch. We also did a 16-hole as Dwi
On 2015-10-19 13:03, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 12:40, Rick Murphy wrote:
At 11:08 PM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availabi
On 2015-10-19 12:40, Rick Murphy wrote:
At 11:08 PM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availability is a different story, but yes,
ADVENT wil
At 11:08 PM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availability is a different story, but yes,
ADVENT will require the full 32K, as far as I remem
Its a terminal concentrator. I have a load of those 8 and 16 line cards.
They would have fanned out to via splitter cables to back /front panels
with 9/25 way D connectors.
They look in a bit of a sorry state. I would not apply power or plug
into any other chassis.
Rod
On 19/10/2015 08:30,
On 10/19/2015 12:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in
the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a
PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice.
http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/kdj
Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in
the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a
PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice.
http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/kdj11.htm
/P
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:30:00AM -
These are the cards in the DecServer 550. Looks to be an expansion
chassis with 108 ports or so.
Thanks
Jim
Photos of the DecServer 550
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4AXJXpUCE-hQ2lsc2lqS3VHd0U&usp=sharing
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