Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-08 Thread Pius Padayatti
nanodrop system is wonderful. it helps very much in solutions with high interference from detergents etc etc. i highly receommend nanodrop specs PSP On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Tim Gruene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring pr

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Roger Rowlett
We have an Ocean Optics USB-4000 unit in our lab. It does everything from quantifying protein and nucleic acids, spectrophotometric titrations, and metalloenzyme spectra at low volume/concentration. It's not a toy, but a diode array spectrophotometer that has excellent S/N and resolution. You c

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Filip Van Petegem
I want to add I absotely hate the nanodrop. We've had a demo for it, and found the readouts to be very unreliable. Fluctuations of 20% and more. Just leaving the same drop in and measuring the sample multiple times gives different values (going in both directions, so not only due to evaportations

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Giffin
If you reduce the path by a factor of 50, can you not increase the concentration by the same factor without violating the shadowing assumption? Mike On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Patrick Loll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from > cryst

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread hari jayaram
We too have a nano-drop. We really like it , but have not yet fully switched over. I agree with all the good things said about it , but here are the few times the nano drop falls short: 1) We still use the old spec ( 1 cm path length ) for things at a very low concentration , i.e for the monitor

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread David Roberts
Wow, that's like putting a pool in your backyard so you don't have to pay the $3.00 admission every day (I'm kidding).  In any event, Ocean Optics has some very nice, small, and portable units that would run around $3000 total.  These connect to the USB port in a computer and produce data that

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Mischa Machius
One more issue regarding the Nanodrop: one has to work quite quickly to avoid potential evaporation. Before buying such an instrument, I would strongly recommend a demo and careful comparisons between the Nanodrop and a good, conventional spectrometer with a representative range of samples.

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Patrick Loll
At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from crystallography: How can you get realistic numbers for concentrated solutions using the Nanodrop? I understand that the instrument reduces absorbance by using a very short path length. However, I thought that in order for t

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Giffin
We also like the Nanodrop. Very fast, no cuvettes (breaking, washing, cleaning, uh nitric acid bath anyone?), and the .ndv data file is a delimited text file. Open in a text editor, copy and paste into a spreadsheet, and you have a convenient record of all of your stocks, including date, sample n

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Matthew . Franklin
CCP4 bulletin board wrote on 12/04/2008 10:16:02 AM: > Dear all, > > we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein > concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and > especially recommendations. > > We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Jim Fairman
We use a Beckman Coulter DU730. It has a small footprint if lab space is an issue. It will do single-wavelength, multi-wavelength, or take an entire spectrum in 0.5 nm steps if you desire. It comes with the standard 1 ml cuvette holder, but we also purchased the microcuvette accessory for volume

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread James M. Vergis
I would also recommend the nanodrop. It takes a whole spectra every measurement and there is no need to dilute your sample. You can demo it for a week and try it out. James M. Vergis, Ph.D. University of Virginia Molecular Physiology and Bi

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Mischa Machius
Tim - I would recommend a spectrometer that records entire spectra, instead of one that takes readings at just 280 nm. Contributions from light scattering can be very strong and can give results that deviate from the true value by a factor of two or more. One cannot detect scattering withou

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Chavas Leo
Dear Tim -- On 4 Dec 2008, at 15:16, Tim Gruene wrote: we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and especially recommendations. I love the Nanodrop system... I know you said you don't want anything fan