Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2023-04-20 Thread Alastair MC EWEN
Hi Betty, I've seen very similar looking similar looking density from trifluoroacetic acid that was present with a synthetic peptide. Could be something to check if you have a peptide bound. Best, Alastair ~ Alastair McEwen, PhD Integrated Structural Biology Platform IGBMC 1 rue Laurent Fr

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2023-04-19 Thread Anat Bashan
Hi Betty, You may use the two following applications from the minor lab : CheckMyMetal - https://cmm.minorlab.org/ CheckMyBlob - https://cmm.minorlab.org/ Best, Anat. From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Betty Chu Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2023 19:59 To: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: [ccp4b

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2023-04-19 Thread David J. Schuller
Anomalous data might have been helpful. Zinc has an edge at 1.2837 A. === All Things Serve the Beam === David J. Schuller

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-27 Thread Philippe BENAS
IL.AC.UK" Envoyé le : Vendredi 27 octobre 2017 14h08 Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density Dear Philippe, Here is the images showing anomalous map at Co contoured at 5. Thanks,Vijaykumar On 27 October 2017 at 14:05, Philippe BENAS wrote: Hello Vijaykumar, Well, 27 e- * 0.4 =

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-27 Thread Philippe BENAS
ippe_be...@yahoo.fr URLs: http://lcrbw.pharmacie.univ-paris5.fr/ , http://lcrbw.pharmacie.univ-paris5.fr/spip.php?article18 De : Vijaykumar Pillalamarri À : Philippe BENAS Cc : "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" Envoyé le : Vendredi 27 octobre 2017 14h08 Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electro

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-27 Thread Philippe BENAS
ar Pillalamarri À : Philippe BENAS Cc : "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" Envoyé le : Vendredi 27 octobre 2017 14h08 Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density Dear Philippe, Here is the images showing anomalous map at Co contoured at 5. Thanks,Vijaykumar On 27 October 2017 at 14:05,

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-27 Thread Philippe BENAS
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Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-26 Thread Vijaykumar Pillalamarri
o.fr > URLs: http://lcrbw.pharmacie.univ-paris5.fr/ , > http://lcrbw.pharmacie.univ-paris5.fr/spip.php?article18 > ------ > > > > -- > *De :* Nick Pearce > *À :* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 26 octobre

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-26 Thread Nick Pearce
I agree that the difference density isn’t “noise". However, just because it’s not noise doesn’t mean that it is modellable (with an atomic model) — the crystallographic density is an average over billions of molecules, and if its not obvious at 1.6Å what is bound, then it’s probably a superposit

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-26 Thread Nick Pearce
Hi, Given the weakness and shapelessness of the density I doubt it is "one conformation of one thing", but rather a superposition of "one or more conformations of one or more things”. If that is the case then there probably isn’t enough information in the electron density or enough prior inform

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-26 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
Hi Vijay, Why there is no 2mFo-DFc (blue) feature on this mFo-DFc (green) map?!! Is the contour level for blue map set high?!! If there is no 2mFo-DFc density, should this be consider as noise?!! Hope this helps, Best Wishes, Partha On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Vijaykumar Pillalamarri < vi

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density

2017-10-26 Thread Vijaykumar Pillalamarri
Dear Dr. Vaheh, I tried fitting waters around Co but the positive density is still present even after refinement. Thanks, Vijaykumar On 26 October 2017 at 20:19, Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote: > Water molecules completing Co coordination? > > > > *Regards,* > > > > *Vaheh Oganesyan* > > *www.medimmun

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands

2017-01-25 Thread Robbie Joosten
Croll<mailto:ti...@cam.ac.uk> Verzonden: woensdag 25 januari 2017 18:30 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands I've often wondered about PEG (and, I guess

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands

2017-01-25 Thread Tristan Croll
I've often wondered about PEG (and, I guess, other synthetic polymers): wouldn't it just be better to define the monomer, and then model a chain of however many monomers you need? T Tristan Croll Research Fellow Cambridge Institute for Medical Research University of Cambridge CB2 0XY

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands

2017-01-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
Uma's use of quotes around "di" suggests a related question about PDB convention. It was my (perhaps not very good) understanding that ligands should be identified by what is actually present in the crystal, and not by what can be modeled. For example endogenous ubiquinone is likely to be UQ50

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-25 Thread Uma Gabale
Dear all,Thank you very much for your replies. It is a PEG, a "di"ethylene glycol to be precise, in most chains. Best regards,Uma. --Uma Gabale, PhDResearch AssociateMolecular and Cellular Biochemistry Indiana University Bloomington #yiv6125321912 #yiv6125321912 -- _filtered #yiv6125321912 {fo

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Robbie Joosten
to:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob Some general remarks about PEG modelling and associated caveats: http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2016/12/00/rr5136/index.html Section 3.6.5. Best, BR From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Bernhard Rupp
:11 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob Just to add to this, in our group, we had a funny case where we found PEG around K: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGSldLVl9pSEptakE https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGZlNiYTFoaktPUHc

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Ana Luísa Moreira de Carvalho
Just to add to this, in our group, we had a funny case where we found PEG around K: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGSldLVl9pSEptakE https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGZlNiYTFoaktPUHc Ana Luisa > On 24 Jan 2017, at 17:36, Artem Evdokimov wrote: > > PEG. It wraps aroun

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Vivoli, Mirella
Exeter Ex4 4QD Tel: + 44 (0)1392 726121 Email: m.viv...@exeter.ac.uk "I don't want to believe. I want to know". [C. Sagan] From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Paul Emsley Sent: 24 January 2017 17:32:35 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Artem Evdokimov
PEG. It wraps around K or R residues just like you are showing. Artem www.harkerbio.com "where every blob has candy inside" On Jan 24, 2017 12:19 PM, "Uma Gabale" < 0ebb5dcf3eaa-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > Dear all, > While refining a structure at 2.5 A resolution, we observed a >

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
Hi Uma, It is risky to guess based on one-view of of the density from 2-dimensional images. What is the contour-level of 2mFo-DFc (blue) map displayed here?!! If 2mFo-DFc density is continuous from Arg, say at 0.8 sigma, then could it be an alternate conformation of the Arg side-chain. One could b

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Emsley
On 24/01/2017 17:32, Paul Emsley wrote: On 24/01/2017 17:19, Uma Gabale wrote: While refining a structure at 2.5 A resolution, we observed a semi-circular/crescent shaped electron density blob as shown in the attached picture. We have been unable to identify it so far, and would appreciate an

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Emsley
On 24/01/2017 17:19, Uma Gabale wrote: While refining a structure at 2.5 A resolution, we observed a semi-circular/crescent shaped electron density blob as shown in the attached picture. We have been unable to identify it so far, and would appreciate any help in identification. If you have C

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Hi, Could it be a segment of peg3350?   Cheers,               Boaz     Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences  Ben-Gurion University of the Negev  Beer-Sheva 84105  

Re: [ccp4bb] unknown electron density~

2011-03-31 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Try fitting a xylitol molecule in it but watch out for the distortions caused by proximity to symmetry axis. Artem On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Shu XU wrote: > Hi, there. > I'm refining a 1.76 A structure. The r-work stuck at 21%, rfree is 24% > after adding waters. > But there is something