Re: [ccp4bb] Difficult to solve MR - A mysterious case

2010-06-29 Thread Jens Kaiser
Chen, First of all, it sounds funny that you can't integrate your data in C2 or P2. That should be possible if your lattice is hP. But then if your Rmrg is OK in P622, p622 is probably at least your (apparent) point group. Second, I'm usually suspicious of SG P622. I would almost bet you're mi

Re: [ccp4bb] Density changes from Positive to negative after ligand addition and  refinement

2010-06-29 Thread Frederic VELLIEUX
Could it be that for some reason (like the components of your solutions) you have Mg2+ in that site? Also, Magnesium is a common "contaminant", trace amounts are usually present in one chemical or another. Subtle differences in the site might make it a "better" site for another lighter ion (we

Re: [ccp4bb] Density changes from Positive to negative after ligand addition and refinement

2010-06-29 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Ivan, these Dale Tronrud's slides might help you with understanding the maps: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/courses/stwk10/talk_files/Dale_The_Wonderful_World_of_Maps.pdf Good luck! Pavel. On 6/29/10 6:35 PM, xaravich ivan wrote: Dear CCP4BB, I have come across something that might be pretty obv

Re: [ccp4bb] Density changes from Positive to negative after ligand addition and refinement

2010-06-29 Thread Frank von Delft
Negative (or positive) density tells you what you that what you've modelled is wrong. If you have 1.15A X-ray data and it's telling you what you think is Ca2+ is not Ca2+, then I would think your X-ray data wins and your previous structures lose (a lot can happen from one structure to the next

Re: [ccp4bb] prediction of anomalous signal

2010-06-29 Thread James Holton
Woops! Sorry in case I just confused a lot of people. The number Felix reports: n_xtals = 0.078 means that the structure solution should have been "easy" (I.E. it could have been done with a crystal having only 8% of the volume used), and indeed it sounds like it was a slam dunk. So, it soun

[ccp4bb] prediction of anomalous signal

2010-06-29 Thread James Holton
On 6/29/2010 12:55 PM, Felix Frolow wrote: BTW James Holton website calculate for this case 0.078 crystal So far, every single one of these "reports" has come down to a misinterpretation of the web interface. I am trying to make it clearer, so I am interested in what values were entered

Re: [ccp4bb] vacuum adapter for Dry shipper Cryo Dewar

2010-06-29 Thread James Holton
The part you are looking for is known as a "valve operator", at least in the parlance of our supplier. Here's a cut & paste of the item we purchased for pumping out our shipping dewars with a nominal 30mm O.D.: V1000 Series Operator for 1" tube. Part Numb

Re: [ccp4bb] detection of anomalous signal using HKL2000

2010-06-29 Thread Felix Frolow
Quoting "Phil Evans" : Can anyone explain what Zbyszek Otwinowski means by Chi squared? If I understand properly, CHI**2 value as used in Scalepack is: SUM(-Ij)**2/SUMsigma(I)**2 (I have to use formula editor to write it properly, but the idea is clear) and is useful in exhibiting and det

Re: [ccp4bb] density quiz

2010-06-29 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Looks atypical for 3-me-Lys, M3L, (usually in natively methylated products) http://www.ruppweb.org/garland/gallery/Ch2/pages/Biomolecular_Crystallograph y_Fig_2-27.htm nor fits dimethyllysine, MYL, (via chem. red) http://www.ruppweb.org/garland/gallery/Ch4/pages/Biomolecular_Crystallograph y_Fig

Re: [ccp4bb] density quiz

2010-06-29 Thread J. Preben Morth
Hi Christian One guess would be one of the possible post translational modifications seen for Lysine. acetylation or a triple methylation. However propionylations and butyrylations have also been observed on lysine. It looks like you could build in waters, you may want to leave this lysine

Re: [ccp4bb] detection of anomalous signal using HKL2000

2010-06-29 Thread Phil Evans
Can anyone explain what Zbyszek Otwinowski means by Chi squared? I can't find a definition in any of his papers (though I may have missed it). Is there a reference? It doesn't seem obviously related to the chi squared distribution ("In probability theory and statistics, the chi-square distribut

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Bernhard Rupp
I second the hkl2map/SHELXCDE approach. Two complete examples explaining how to do this for MAD and S-SAD cases are in my book. I wish to emphasize the importance of a) running enough trials b) careful selection of resolution cutoffs c) look at the solution distribution d) play with SHELXE param

[ccp4bb] Programs to detwin.

2010-06-29 Thread yang li
Dear All, Can phenix.refine and Detwin in CCP4 handle twinning data with multiple twinning law? Or there are some other good programs can do this? If the data has some pseudo-meroheral twin operators, can it be treated as same as merohedral operates? Thanks very much! Best Yang

[ccp4bb] Postdoc position

2010-06-29 Thread Howard S. Young
Applications are invited for a postdoctoral position to work on the structure determination of membrane transport proteins critical in cardiovascular function. The transporters we study have been linked to human disorders such as cardiomyopathy, ischemia-reperfusion injury, and various canc

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Tim Gruene
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 09:30:30AM -0700, James Holton wrote: > Answering the question "should I even bother trying?" can be > complicated, [...] > > -James Holton > MAD Scientist > Since 'trying' may only take a semi-experienced user about 30min until they could have a poly-Alanine trace of the

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread James Holton
Answering the question "should I even bother trying?" can be complicated, but I get asked that a lot at the beamline! I recently incorporated a number of data quality formulas into a little interactive web page here: http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/xtalsize.html which focuses on calculating how many

Re: [ccp4bb] Fast,medium,slow axis do not match

2010-06-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Alternatively you can force the fft to generate a map with the sfall axiis order (sfall has a fixed axis order governed by the spacegroup) From the fft documentation You can set AXIS Eleanor Kevin Cowtan wrote: You could feed *both* maps through mapmask with AXIS X Y Z to convert them to t

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Phil Evans
I would say CC-anom > 0.3 or even 0.2 (note that the scala CC-anom is defined on I not F) Phil On 29 Jun 2010, at 14:37, Frank von Delft wrote: > I've found the scala CC-anom significantly underestimates the anomalous > signal, relative to e.g. xprep. I don't know why that is, but the latter

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Frank von Delft
I've found the scala CC-anom significantly underestimates the anomalous signal, relative to e.g. xprep. I don't know why that is, but the latter seems to agree with what shelxd is happy with. Cheers phx On 29/06/2010 10:35, Graeme Winter wrote: Hi Murugan, One useful indicator of raw ano

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2010-06-29 Thread Peer Mittl
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Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear Murugan, Am 29.06.10 11:05, schrieb Vandu Murugan: Dear all, I have collected a 2.7 angstrom home source data with Cu-Kalpha source for a protein with 6 cysteines, with a multiplicity of around 23. I need to know, is there any significant anamolous signal present in the data set, si

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Graeme Winter
Hi Murugan, One useful indicator of raw anomalous signal is the ANOMPLOT graph from Scala - this shows the differences between reflections compared with the expected differences. If the gradient of the plot is 1 there's no more differences that you would expect. If the gradient is more than one th

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Murugan, you can use the program hkl2map from Thomas Schneider, available at http://webapps.embl-hamburg.de/hkl2map/ It's a graphical interface to the programs shelx c/d/e which are available from http://shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de/SHELX/index.html With SAD data you want to look at the d"/sigma li

Re: [ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Vandu Murugan wrote: Dear all, I have collected a 2.7 angstrom home source data with Cu-Kalpha source for a protein with 6 cysteines, with a multiplicity of around 23. I need to know, is there any significant anamolous signal present in the data set, since there is no good model for my pro

[ccp4bb] measure of anamolous signal

2010-06-29 Thread Vandu Murugan
Dear all, I have collected a 2.7 angstrom home source data with Cu-Kalpha source for a protein with 6 cysteines, with a multiplicity of around 23. I need to know, is there any significant anamolous signal present in the data set, since there is no good model for my protein. Can any one tell, w

Re: [ccp4bb] Fast,medium,slow axis do not match

2010-06-29 Thread Kevin Cowtan
You could feed *both* maps through mapmask with AXIS X Y Z to convert them to the same axis order. You may also have a problem with the maps having different XYZLIM ranges. In that case, using XYZLIM MATCH on the second run of mapmask to match the second map to the first should fix it. Kevin

Re: [ccp4bb] f2mtz error: problems reading reflection

2010-06-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Can you attach the first 50 lines of your hkl file? Eleanor Yogesh Gupta wrote: Dear Experts, After a new installation on Mac OS 10.6, i am getting this error (related to f2mtz) during the "Find SITES" step by SHELX in Autosharp. Data line--- LABO H K L FA SIGFA ALPHA Number of columns to be

Re: [ccp4bb] Lodovico...

2010-06-29 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Dear all, A tribute to Lodovico (pictures + letters + a song) can be found on http://www.crystalerice.org/Erice2010/Lodovico/index.htm Fred.

Re: [ccp4bb] Merohedral twining for P212121. -

2010-06-29 Thread Loes Kroon-Batenburg
Dear Frank, DIRAX is very good at finding the twin lattices in case of non-merohedral twinning. In the reticular case you might want to use the LEPAGE-TWIN routine in PLATON to find the correct subcell. My collegue, Martin Lutz, suggests to change the measurement temperature in order to chang