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in the system. When incrementals are run,
if the file is recently modified, the checksums are checked again.
I think the first thing that would need to occur for Bacula to do this,
is the use of something stronger than MD5. Perhaps SHA256.
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> > "David Ballester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Hi to all:
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> > > Some da
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> > PostgreSQL is extremely particular about SQL encodings, and rejects
> > non-valid strings. If you've found a string that bacula tries to
> >
ent, you _should_ file a bug report. However, you mention
"old client" in your original post, but make no mention of the particular
version of Bacula on the director, sd or fd. Is it possible that you're
using an older v
slowing you down.
In my experience, CPU/memory are usually not the bottleneck when
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FDConnectTimeout parameter in the director's config. The default is
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Now Search log events and co
depending on your NFS export
settings, you may hit permissions problems.
So which is best depends on which of those tradeoffs is most important
to you. Also, whether or not you actually use software compression will
change the ba
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> > Connect to the PostgreSQL database using the psql command:
> > psql -U bacula bacula
> >
> > Then enter "\l" to list the installed databases and their
> Client: "aristarchus" 2.0.3 (06Mar07)
> > i686-redhat-linux-gnu,redhat,(Zod)
> > FileSet:"Aristarchus Set" 2007-08-06 02:42:10
> > Pool: "Default" (From Job resource)
> > Storage:"
d it
thoroughly, or has some strange axe to grind.
As I see it, this will allow big corporations to be more comfortable
adopting Bacula. The money coming from the corps will fuel additional
development, which will benefit folks who aren't willing to or prefer not
to pay. As Kern said, t
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nd its all fine
> (the only one problem was with access for bacula to autochenger node in
> /dev)
> autochanger is Quantum superloader 3
We're using chio-changer with FreeBSD 6 and a Dell LTO2 drive. Works just
dandy, but we're not doing barcodes, so I can't comment on th
x27;s composed of 2000 1-meg files. This is because each file has
some overhead associated with writing backup records to the database.
If the speed difference is enough to be of concern, you should look at
optimizing whatever data
n to run 50 jobs in parallel
(i.e. at the same time, not just 50 jobs in series) I would recommend that
you get a dedicated DB server with about 12 disks arranged in a RAID 10 and
a battery-backed cache. If you can run the jobs in series, then just about
any reasonably powered serv
pace.
This is not the behaviour I observe. When a volume has been marked Purged,
it is then recycled the next time a volume from that pool is needed.
When a volume's retention time is exceeded, it is purged.
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don't know if there's a feature request out for this, but maybe I
should create one. It would be nice if the FD could be programmed
with a delay loop during the compression process, configurable by
the user. It's difficult to say whether this would ac
s of compression or turning it off altogether.
So my first advice would be to verify whether compression is on or not.
Check your job defaults.
Is this a POSIX system? Run top(1) and see where the CPU time is going:
user? system? io?
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Find out what that something is and you'll have a good hint as to what you
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> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:20:36 -0400, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I need to backup sev
gt; because the VPN IP of the backup server is 10.67.0.1 so it should connect to
> the SD on 10.67.0.1.
> How can I tell the client to connect to the SD on the right IP?
Define the storage daemon that way.
I'm confused, however. Is the SD on the same system
ot;:
> --
> /etc
> /opt
> /root
> /usr/local
> /home
> /home/mschiff
> --
> (with /, /home and /home/mschiff being different filesystems)
>
>
> Any hints how I can get rid of the warning?
This
I am not sure what the password is.
> > >
> > This password is set in the bacula-dir.conf file on the director.
> >
> > John
> >
>
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> >> A fire safe might fit the bill here.
> >
> > I've always wondered about this.
> >
> > If I put _plastic_ tapes in a fire safe, how long does the safe ac
useless.
Does anyone have any direct experience with how well a fire safe protects
something like backup tapes? If it's well insulated, it will protect them
for a while, but long enough for the fire to be extinguished?
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data you're willing to lose determines how often you do full compared
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, or MPEGs, or MP3s) you're _not_ going to see the 2x compression
those tape manufactures advertise.
The fact that you managed to get 215G on a 200G tape tells me that compression
is working, but you're just not getting the 2x you were hoping for.
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t; /usr/sbin/bacula-dir -c /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf
>
> It also didn't work...however, if I type it in the command line letter for
> letter, it works fine.
Try running the script as "sh -x script_name" and see if the
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> >
> > In response to Martin Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > > >>>>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:55:07 -0
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> > On the flip side, running dbcheck periodically is pretty much a requirement
> > for keeping Bacula's database reasonably size
the flip side, running dbcheck periodically is pretty much a requirement
for keeping Bacula's database reasonably sized. I have it run once a month
in read-only mode via cron and email us the results. When the extra stuff
gets significant, I use i
s to be configure your jobs using
RescheduleOnError -- see this page:
http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/Configuring_Director.html#JobResource
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u try a different tape?
Sometimes tapes ship from the factory with problems. Is this the same
tape that you used for the tests?
We had a drive go bad on us and the errors that Bacula was spewing out
were the most crypti
ou know how much data you can store before your drive
fills up, you should be able to estimate a reasonable length of time to
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ports, it's that various HP drivers "probe" the network
to "automatically" find all the printers on the network.
IOW: when MS Windows starts up, the HP printer drivers try to connect to
port 910x on every host on the network to see if there's a printer there.
Agai
ll, he's welcome to his opinion, but he doesn't seem to have any facts to
back it up.
> > Bacula ought to have gotten a port registered by IANA in the reserved
> range rather than just
> > grabbing ports that have long been in use for printing.
Again,
]: [346-1] ERROR: index "delinx1" does not exist
> postgres[19278]: [347-1] ERROR: table "delcandidates" does not exist
> postgres[19278]: [348-1] ERROR: index "delinx1" does not exist
> postgres[19278]: [349-1] ERROR: index "delinx1" does not e
atus FinishedName
>
> [other jobs]
> 1462 Full 0 0 Error29-Jan-07 18:07 ArcIMS
>
> I am puzzled why there are 13,339 SD files and 9,959,280,437 bytes
> written, but zero
mon reason for this, but they're
not the only possible cause.
I didn't see any hardware details -- perhaps you posted it earlier and
I missed them. Bacula will need a lot of RAM to store that large of a
directory tree. Monitor top, iostat, and any other sys monitoring programs
you
use duration exceeded, and bacula wait for a new volume until an
> operator come and change it in the morning.
> Is it possible to check the Volume use duration on a volume without starting a
> new job on this volume?
Configure an admin job. See:
http://bacula.org/rel-manual/Configuring_D
Oliver Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I wonder how I can speed up bacula?
>
> FD Bytes Written: 54,663,990,797 (54.66 GB)
> SD Bytes Written: 54,667,075,813 (54.66 GB)
> Rate: 2687.1 KB/s
>
> the directories to backup are on the same 3ware-RAID-5 as th
Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Saturday 06 January 2007 14:14, Jonathan Horne wrote:
> > ok, im backing up, and starting over. looks like 2.0 was just committed to
> > freebsd ports.
> >
> > question: is it best to use those random generated passwords, or to put in
> > my own?
>
Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> as i mentioned in another thread, i am migrating from netbackup to bacula.
> my
> bacula dev server:
>
> FreeBSD fbsd62-1.dev.dfwlp.com 6.1-SECURITY FreeBSD 6.1-SECURITY #0: Mon Dec
> 4 07:53:55 UTC 2006
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/
backup mainly are
> Window and Linux machine, so what should I do?
Window: use VSS.
Linux: it depends on the filesystem you're using, and whether that filesystem
supports snapshots. For example, I believe Reiser does, but I don't think
that ext2 does. For how to write the script,
bad -- it looks better than the OOo graphics I did for
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> FD termination status:
>
> SD termination status: Waiting on FD
>
> Termination:*** Backup Error ***
>
>
>
> Any help???
Yes. Use host names that actually r
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> > > That's not too much for Bacula, although OpenBSD as a client is not as
> > > easy to set up as other OSes.
compile.
> AFAIK, it works, though.
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~seklecki/obsd_bacula.html
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r of exceeding this too soon:
bacula=> select max(fileid) from file;
max
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111205419
(1 row)
Been running about 6 months. We should probably plan to upgrade to 64-bit
when we upgrade to the latest version in the spring.
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What: Cause Bacula daemons (dir, fd, sd) to always use the ip address
specified in the [DIR|DF|SD]Addr directive as the sou
se? (this would I assume be per director then in
> reality if they used different databases?)
Actually, it's per-database catalog. This is because most databases
use 32 bit int for IDs.
You can have multiple databases (what Bacula calls a catalot) per Bacula
director, which allows you
he
fourth is a medium-grade machine backing up about 20G of servers and
desktops. None of them are experiencing any performance problems.
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ot;. Bacula doesn't "do" drives.
In order to work around it, Bacula creates a directory for each
drive, as you can see above in your ls, it created a c: directory
in the backup volume.
So, try "cd c:" then do another ls. An example for one of my systems:
cwd
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e root to handle the problem of Windows having "drives". I also
seem to remember the c: and d: being case-sensitive (perhaps they were
C: and D:) ... anyway, that confused me at first, and I don't remember
them showing up in an ls ... but I could be wrong.
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on 6.X and a whole messa FDs.
Dan has done an outstanding job of keeping the port up to date.
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> ## Alert Command = "sh -c 'tapeinfo -f %c |grep TapeAlert|cat'"
> #}
>
> #
> # A FreeBSD tape drive
> #
> #Device {
> # Name = DDS-4
> # Description = "DDS-4 for FreeBSD"
> # Media Type = D
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> > On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:11:59 +0100
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:09:13 +0100
Manuel Staechele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> i do not understand the message:
>
> server-fd: Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /home
>
> did bacula save this directory or not? It came only this message, the
> job it self is
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:11:59 +0100
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>
> Well thanks for your answer. I will change my volumes size useing the
> Max Volume Bytes setting. What settings do you reccomend if you used
> this feature? If I issue the list volumes command in console I got
>
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:47:53 +0100
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>
> memory usage is at 60MB out of 1GB. No swapping at all.
>
> By the way. Shouldn't it be possible to edit the database to delete some
> File entries to make things work?
> I already took a look at the db w
s going wrong on that machine.
I'm no MySQL expert, but isn't there something that needs to go in
the my.cnf or whatever in order for MySQL to operate efficiently on
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rying to teach bacula not to back it up. Instead, use some
sort of file-level encryption, such as one of pgp's tools. Then, you
can even back up the encrypted files if it makes sense to do so,
without sacrificing their confidentiality.
The approach you're taking is like trying to f
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has read rights to the entire system. Are you doing some sort of
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ave to give -c if it doesn't find the config file)
If you do bacula-dir --help, it'll give you a list of options. Not
because it understands --help, but because it does that when it doesn't
understand its options.
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Using default Catalog name=MyCatalog DB=bacula
> A job name must be specified.
> The defined Job resources are:
> 1: Client1
> 2: Twiki Server
> 3: Backupwindows
> 4: BackupCatalog
> 5: RestoreFiles
> Select Job resource (1-5):
>
> HOWEVER
essing. I don't believe that spaces in job names would cause
any problems, but it's the only thing I can see that stands out. Trying
removing the spaces from your various names (JobDefs, Job, FileSet) and
see if the problem persists. Hope this isn't a wild goose chase for
you, but I
I would guess that you've got some obscure error in your config file.
Strip the passwords out of it and paste it into a reply to this thread.
We probably only need to the director's config to diagnose this.
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> > Currently, the windows FD is running stable and reliable IMO.
> > Unfortunately, I have some problems with VSS backups (windows' name for
> > volume snapshots) where files can't be access
accordance with our
schedule). Is there something wrong with my schedule that I'm simply
not seeing?
A much more important question to me is "How do I diagnose this?" How
can I peek in to Bacula and see what week it thinks it is? bconsole's
time command isn't very helpful
;
> When I tried to spool to tape, it asks to mount the volume, although the
> tape is already in there and I can write to it with mt and tar.
If you wrote to the tape with tar _after_ labelling it, then you destroyed
the Bacula
e
users most of the time that they are in.
The upshot is that it tries to initiate a backup every hour between 9:00
AM and 6:00 PM.
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> BM> In response to "Anders Boström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >> gzip on this computer, o
arget existing on the mfs.
I have a suspicion that your drives are the limiting factor in this.
The above tests should confirm or deny that theory.
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> >> I did some new performance-test
; goes up to 40% remaining and the cycle repeats. Also when running the
> SMART extended self-test, the IO-performance is more than 10 times
> lower than normal (leading to very long backup-time).
>
> We have been in contact with Seagate about this, and have upgraded to
> the lat
27;m a bit confused as to why there's so much focus on the
network, but I expect it's a result of the _huge_ number of people who
assume that everything is fine with the network, then blame the application,
only to later find o
ause of dumb luck of the protocol
Their argument seems to be that this behaviour is per the specs. If
a D-Link does it differently, then D-Link is doing it "wrong", even if
it's doing it more intuitively.
If Cisco is correct, then it would seem as if the spec were written
poorly.
es within the /backup
> dir which brings me to the above question will Bacula follow the
> softlinks?
Please wrap your lines around 72 characters.
Current versions of Bacula don't follow symlinks. There's been some
discussion about how to add a "follow symlinks" config o
which OS
> distributions, versions and platforms are being deployed as Bacula servers.
4 systems running Bacula on FreeBSD 6.x using PostgreSQL as the backend.
If you want to know where FDs are running, that's a bit of a larger
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> >> Enable VSS = "yes"
> >>
> >> works for me. FreeBSD / 1.38.5 from port
onfig:
FileSet {
Name = "WindowsXP"
Include {
# Enable VSS = "Yes"
Options {
# compression = GZIP1
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Generates the same error. The error is the same whether I use the " or
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ng you make incrementals 6 days a week, and Sunday is for fulls
and differentials, set retention on your incrementals to 6 days,
differentials to 3 weeks. Then you'll always have enough data to
perform an incremental w
erious information somewhere. It's amazing that the open source
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provide assistance for free. But I find it even more amazing that
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noticed that GZIP1 uses noticeably less CPU than GZIP (which is actually
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