In response to Chris Hoogendyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Marketing claims always tend to be a bit sketchy, and getting marketing
> departments to follow academic practices of source citation is rather
> unlikely. However, it is possible that they do have a larger installed
> base for historical reasons, aside from what you might see listed in
> download statistics from Source Forge.
> 
> I guess a broader question for Source Forge would be whether they have
> any stated policy or practice regarding targeting ads at competitors
> pages within Source Forge.

Unfortunately, there are rules in marketing.  One of the more important
rules is:

"Say anything that will get you customers, as long as the profit from
the customers exceeds the cost of any lawsuits."

(Oddly enough, if you replace "customers" with "votes", politicians
have a similar rule.)

I've noticed that this practice has been getting worse in recent years,
at least in the U.S.  It used to be, if you had a "doctor" on a commercial,
there was fine print at the bottom of the screen that said something
like "not a real doctor" or otherwise identified the person as an
actor with no medical training.  That doesn't occur anymore.  TV ads
(in particular) lie outright -- they just do it in a way that their
lawyers think it's unlikely they'll ever have a sizable lawsuit occur
as a result.

The biggest problem, IMHO, is that the American public has ceased to
notice and/or do anything about it.

I mean, to bring this back to the original topic, if Kern complains (hell,
if the entire Bacula community complains) it will probably cause very
little to happen aside from a polite apology and explanation of why it
is this way from Sourceforge.

If, however, Kern were to start publicly researching alternatives to
Sourceforge, they might take notice, as Bacula is a pretty important
project with a lot of draw.

I'm not going to suggest that you _should_ do that, I'm just saying it
might be more effective.  If Sourceforge is unwilling/unable to force
their advertisers to be honest, perhaps some other project hosting
service would be a better fit anyway?

-- 
Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.

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