Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Alexandre" == Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alexandre> On Apr 26, 2000, Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I Alexandre> don't see any reason to do it. I'd rather keep both Alexandre> `--host=TRIPLET' and plain `TRIPLET'. >> The fact is that the two schemes were not eq

Re: Performances of awk

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
|From: Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |Date: 26 Apr 2000 18:41:32 +0200 | |If you concentrate the measure on this very script, the performance |penalty is frightening: | | It certainly is. This is a performance bug in mawk. | I observed the bug in mawk 1.3.3. | | To work ar

Re: Performances of awk

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Greg" == Greg A Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Greg> Now I do have to ask what the purpose of that awk script could Greg> possibly be, and why it has to do things the way it seems to Greg> want to do them? Removing useless blanks, replacing the quadrigraphs, and simulating $LINENO.

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Apr 27, 2000, Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm, what scripts are you thinking about? Scripts that would run configure and install software, for example. > And are you sure their authors will be happy to see their script > still working, but doing something different? Why would

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Alexandre" == Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> And are you sure their authors will be happy to see their script >> still working, but doing something different? Alexandre> Why would they be doing something different? I don't know too well, and I confess and don't want to :)

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Apr 27, 2000, Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Alexandre" == Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alexandre> You mean, because now they'd be considered to be cross Alexandre> compiling? Hmm... I think I begin to understand why the Alexandre> current implementation is a

Autoconf fails to install without help2man

2000-04-27 Thread Mo DeJong
Why does autoconf require another program to install? This other program is not included in the CVS. The error message seems to indicate that not having the program is not critical ( see the WARNING: message) but the "make install" fails to run without the help2man program. Updating man page auto

MANUFACTURER in canonicalization triple

2000-04-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, What is the MANUFACTURER aka VENDOR field in a canonicalization triple meant to contain? My understanding is that it shall describe the vendor/manufacturer of a board or better the board family, being used to guess/preset settings for a specific setups, primarily in near-hardware packages (e

Re: Autoconf fails to install without help2man

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Mo" == Mo DeJong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mo> Why does autoconf require another program to install? Because you're referring to the CVS tarball, hence you shall be ready to be in position of a maintainer. Autoconf, once completely packed, will not require help2man. Nevertheless, the

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Alexandre" == Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Are you sure that's what the rule was? Alexandre> That's what AC_CANONICAL_THING does. I didn't look at the Alexandre> rules. But now that I read them, I see they're exactly Alexandre> what's implemented, except that I didn't

Re: Autoconf fails to install without help2man

2000-04-27 Thread T.E.Dickey
> > > "Mo" == Mo DeJong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mo> Why does autoconf require another program to install? > > Because you're referring to the CVS tarball, hence you shall be ready > to be in position of a maintainer. Autoconf, once completely packed, > will not require help2m

Re: config.[guess|sub] (WAS: Re: Is this a bug in autoconf? (patch included))

2000-04-27 Thread Earnie Boyd
--- Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yup. I've found many packages whose config.guess would guess > alphaev6-unknown-linux-gnu, but whose config.sub wouldn't accept > alphaev6, so I had to manually `configure alpha-unknown-linux-gnu'. > Of course, in these cases, it is the package

Re: config.[guess|sub] (WAS: Re: Is this a bug in autoconf? (patch included))

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Earnie" == Earnie Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Earnie> Since you brought up this point, I've often wondered why Earnie> configure isn't constructed such that it uses the Earnie> config.[guess|sub] which has the most recent version. First of all, there are still no easy means to comp

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Akim! > So now I think we can clearly state the question: > > Should an arg to configure be considered as a --build. Since "configure --help" used to print Usage: ./configure [OPTION]... [VAR=VALUE]... [HOST] we should not change [HOST] to [BUILD] without concerns about backwar

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
Pavoin pavoin! > "Pavel" == Pavel Roskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Pavel> Also look at this: $ ./configure a b configure: error: can only Pavel> configure for one host and one target at a time Pavel> "build" is not mentioned. Yes, but that's correct when you take a look at the clumsy ru

Re: Autoconf fails to install without help2man

2000-04-27 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Akim" == Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Akim> Nevertheless, the CVS repo is keeping all the files up to date, with Akim> all the dependencies satisfied. FYI, cvs doesn't preserve relative timestamps. This is one reason that AM_MAINTAINER_MODE refuses to die. Tom

Re: Autoconf fails to install without help2man

2000-04-27 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Tom" == Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Akim" == Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Akim> Nevertheless, the CVS repo is keeping all the files up to date, Akim> with all the dependencies satisfied. Tom> FYI, cvs doesn't preserve relative timestamps. OK, thanks. Tom

Re: Performances of awk

2000-04-27 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On , April 27, 2000 at 10:37:28 (+0200), Akim Demaille wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Performances of awk > > Removing useless blanks, replacing the quadrigraphs, and simulating > $LINENO. Ah, line numbers! I didn't notice that with older "configure" scripts as input -- just the blanks and blank line

RE: Is this a bug in autoconf? (patch included)

2000-04-27 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Alexandre Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 6:00 AM > To: Paul Berrevoets > Cc: Peter Eisentraut; Ian Lance Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
From: Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 27 Apr 2000 01:06:14 -0300 On Apr 26, 2000, Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandre> I don't see any reason to do it. I'd rather keep both Alexandre> `--host=TRIPLET' and plain `TRIPLET'. > The fact is that the two sc

Re: Is this a bug in autoconf? (patch included)

2000-04-27 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Apr 27, 2000, Bernard Dautrevaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just "./configure --build=alpha-unknown-linux-gnu" as in fact you are > building on an alpha-unknown-linux-gnu, and want a native compile... This wouldn't have worked in the previous scheme, as it would still try to guess the host

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
From: Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 27 Apr 2000 14:14:35 +0200 So now I think we can clearly state the question: Should an arg to configure be considered as a --build. I would vote no. I agree that this is not as bad as making a configure argument be treated as -

Re: MANUFACTURER in canonicalization triple

2000-04-27 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:52:53 +0200 From: Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is the MANUFACTURER aka VENDOR field in a canonicalization triple meant to contain? It normally contains the manufacturer or vendor of the hardware. I am asking, because i386-pc-linux distributors

Re: Revamping AC_CANONICAL_*

2000-04-27 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Apr 27, 2000, Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should an arg to configure be considered as a --build. Alexandre> Yes, so that existing scripts can still run without Alexandre> modification. Not really. An arg to configure should be considered as the default for --build, --

Re: MANUFACTURER in canonicalization triple

2000-04-27 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello! >Imagine the consequences of: >./configure --build=i386-suse-linux-gnu --host=i386-redhat-linux-gnu It doesn't scare me :-) You get what you are asking for. > I think those configuration triplets are wrong. I think they should > be something like `i386-pc-linuxsuse7.0-gnu' or >

Re: MANUFACTURER in canonicalization triple

2000-04-27 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Pavel Roskin wrote: > > > I think those configuration triplets are wrong. I think they should > > be something like `i386-pc-linuxsuse7.0-gnu' or > > `i386-pc-linux-gnususe7.0'. > > It it not better. "linux" should have the kernel version at the end, as > this is much more

Re: Performances of awk

2000-04-27 Thread Mike Brennan
I won't have time to look at this until this weekend. I will respond with at least an explanation sometime this weekend. -- Mike On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 10:36:24AM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: > > |From: Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > |Date: 26 Apr 2000 18:41:32 +0200 > | > |