DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal - Unradiance

2023-04-17 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/17/23 16:33, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: There doesn't seem to be a cost to giving people more options like this, so I'll just give this a shot too: I create and submit the following Proposal: Title: Unradiance v2 AI: 1.0 Author: Yachay Co-Authors: None { From rule 2657,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Proposal] strength to the people

2023-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 11:37 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2/28/23 13:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > [Since we're going through an extra-pedantic period on R105...] > > > > I withdraw my proposal Populist Priming and submit the following proposal: > > ---

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Proposal] strength to the people

2023-02-28 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/28/23 13:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > [Since we're going through an extra-pedantic period on R105...] > > I withdraw my proposal Populist Priming and submit the following proposal: > -- > Title: Populist Priming > AI: 2 > Author: G. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Proposal] An exercise in patience

2022-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/2/22 00:04, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > When a stone is cascaded, the Rule defining that stone applies the effects in > that stone's scroll. This doesn't work due to power. -- Jason Cobb Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-09-06 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-09-04 18:38, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 9/4/20 2:29 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: >> I vote FOR Proposal 8493. > > > By the timestamps in my client, this was about 9 minutes after the > voting period ends. Alas. I was taking a "shoot first, ask questions later"

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-09-04 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/4/20 2:29 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > I vote FOR Proposal 8493. By the timestamps in my client, this was about 9 minutes after the voting period ends. -- Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-09-01 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/31/20 6:49 PM, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > On 8/31/20 5:41 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: >> I point my finger at nix for failure to specify quorum above, in >> violation of Rule 879. >> >> -Aris > For the record, if I had realized this was a SHALL I wouldn't have > skipped

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-08-31 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 8/31/20 5:41 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I point my finger at nix for failure to specify quorum above, in > violation of Rule 879. > > -Aris For the record, if I had realized this was a SHALL I wouldn't have skipped it. The rules for distribution are a mess. -- nix Prime M

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-08-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:31 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > On Aug 28, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > > I submit the following proposal, "Minor Adjustments", AI-3: > > --

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-08-28 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 7:20 PM, nix via agora-business > wrote: > > On 8/28/20 1:09 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: >> On 8/28/20 11:17 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >>> I submit the following proposal, "Minor Adjustments", AI-3: >>> --

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-08-28 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business > wrote: > > > I submit the following proposal, "Minor Adjustments", AI-3: > --- > > Increase the power of Rule 2633 (Rulebending) to 3. > > ---

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Expedition

2014-10-28 Thread omd
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > A rule which purports to allow a person (a special deputy) to > perform an action via special deputisation for an office thereby > allows them to perform the action by announcement, as long as You're missing deputisation's "

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: War

2011-04-26 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 16:06, omd wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > Proposal: War (AI = 2) > > I don't think this addresses the issue with simultaneous point gains, does > it? > It does. Basically if two people at war simultaneously drop each other's scores

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: War

2011-04-26 Thread omd
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Proposal: War (AI = 2) I don't think this addresses the issue with simultaneous point gains, does it?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: War

2011-04-26 Thread Charles Walker
On 26 April 2011 19:00, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I retract the proposal War and submit the following proposal: > > Proposal: War (AI = 2) > > Create a new Rule, entitled "War," with the following text: > > Hostility is a switch for subsets of players of size 2 tracked by the > Scorekeepor, with val

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Kill it with fire

2009-09-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Well, crap.  H. Majority Leader ais523, would you please veto this > when it comes up for vote, so Rule 2198 won't block it? I'm pretty sure the veto changes the adoption index of the decision, not of the proposal.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Banks

2009-08-17 Thread comex
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > True, it should probably be something like >  "A person CAN, without three objections, cause a contract [to which e >   is party] to become a Bank" > (do we need to restrict it to parties?) I don't think it's necessary considering the W3O. -- -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Banks

2009-08-17 Thread Ed Murphy
c. wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> comex wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: A Bank is a public contract whose purpose includes facilitating a means of asset exchange between players. Any party to a contract CAN cause that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Banks

2009-08-17 Thread comex
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > comex wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: >>> A Bank is a public contract whose purpose includes facilitating a >>> means of asset exchange between players. Any party to a contract CAN cause >>> that >>> contract to be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Banks

2009-08-17 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: >> A Bank is a public contract whose purpose includes facilitating a >> means of asset exchange between players. Any party to a contract CAN cause >> that >> contract to become a Bank without three objections. > > Which contract?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Banks

2009-08-16 Thread comex
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > A Bank is a public contract whose purpose includes facilitating a > means of asset exchange between players. Any party to a contract CAN cause > that > contract to become a Bank without three objections. Which contract? > Any player CAN trans

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Hand Limit Remodel

2009-08-12 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > {{ > Penalty Box - Specify an entity. Playing this card announces intent to > audit that entity With Notice, so long as that entity is not audited > between the time this card is played and the time intent is resolved. > }} Useless; has the sam

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Hand Limit Remodel

2009-08-12 Thread Pavitra
Roger Hicks wrote: > Append to the numbered list in R1728 ("Dependent Actions"), bullet item a): > {{ > 4) With Notice. > }} You should also replace "if the action depends on objections" with "if the action depends on objections or notice" in bullet item b).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Flexible Hand Limits

2009-07-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> Each player has a non-negative integer value Hand Limit (default 15). >> The Hand Limit of each player is tracked by the Registrar. > > I'd make this Accountor too (goes along with salary switches), oth

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Flexible Hand Limits

2009-07-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: > Each player has a non-negative integer value Hand Limit (default 15). > The Hand Limit of each player is tracked by the Registrar. I'd make this Accountor too (goes along with salary switches), otherwise the information starts to get really scattered.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Flexible Hand Limits

2009-07-28 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Roger Hicks wrote: > Shrink Potion - Specify a player. That player's Hand Limit is > decreased by 5% (rounded up). I think this should be "decreased by 1".

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > 2009/6/10 Benjamin Caplan : >> Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: I act on behalf of coppro to support this. I act on behalf of Pavitra to support this. I act on behalf of zeckalpha to support this. Having received sufficient support, I m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-10 Thread Elliott Hird
That was what zooping did. On 2009-06-10, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/6/10 Benjamin Caplan : >> Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: I act on behalf of coppro to support this. I act on behalf of Pavitra to support this. I act on behalf of zeckalpha to suppo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-10 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/10 Benjamin Caplan : > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >>> I act on behalf of coppro to support this. I act on behalf of Pavitra >>> to support this. I act on behalf of zeckalpha to support this. Having >>> received sufficient support, I make this proposal dis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-09 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> I act on behalf of coppro to support this. I act on behalf of Pavitra >> to support this. I act on behalf of zeckalpha to support this. Having >> received sufficient support, I make this proposal distributable. > > You should come u

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Aaron Goldfein wrote: Oops. I've confused the new players. I act on behalf of allispaul to support this. Having received sufficient support, I make

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-09 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Aaron Goldfein wrote: >>> Oops. I've confused the new players. I act on behalf of allispaul to >>> support this. Having received sufficient support, I make this proposal >>> distributable. >> The trick i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Oops. I've confused the new players. I act on behalf of allispaul to >> support this. Having received sufficient support, I make this proposal >> distributable. > The trick is that allispaul is named Paul. Funny, I still have that pr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-09 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Oops. I've confused the new players. I act on behalf of allispaul to > support this. Having received sufficient support, I make this proposal > distributable. The trick is that allispaul is named Paul.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-09 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Proposal: No More Distributability (AI = 2, II = 2) >> >> Amend Rule 1607 (The Promotor) to read: >> >> The Promotor is an office; its holder is responsible for >> receiving and distributing proposals. >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: No More Distributability

2009-06-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I act on behalf of coppro to support this. I act on behalf of Pavitra > to support this. I act on behalf of zeckalpha to support this. Having > received sufficient support, I make this proposal distributable. You should come up with an acronym for this.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reworking the Anarchist

2009-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/28 Kerim Aydin : > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >> >>> The Anarchist's proposals are rarely accepted. This proposal proposes two >>> changes, both of which serve the purpose of having the Anarchist's proposals >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reworking the Anarchist

2009-04-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > >> The Anarchist's proposals are rarely accepted. This proposal proposes two >> changes, both of which serve the purpose of having the Anarchist's proposals >> actually be accepted. First, the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reworking the Anarchist

2009-04-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > The Anarchist's proposals are rarely accepted. This proposal proposes two > changes, both of which serve the purpose of having the Anarchist's proposals > actually be accepted. First, the Anarchist is given the power to select the > rules e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reserve Fora

2009-04-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/25 Roger Hicks > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:03, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent > > to a reserve forum if all public fora are not functional, or > > sent to all players and containing a clear designation of inten

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reserve Fora

2009-04-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 13:20 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or, if > the sender reasonably believes no public forum to be available > and functional, sent via a reserve forum or directly all players > containing a clear d

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reserve Fora

2009-04-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:03, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >   A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent >   to a reserve forum if all public fora are not functional, or >   sent to all players and containing a clear designation of intent >   to be public.  A person

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Democracy When Reasonable

2009-02-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 08:54 -0600, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > Proposal: Democracy When Reasonable (AI = 2, II = 0) > { > Change the text of rule 2142, Support Democracy from: > A player CAN, with 2 suppor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Ed Murphy
pikhq wrote: > I do all my text editing by controlling butterflies, thereby affecting > the weather enough to flip bits on my hard drive. > > Idea courtesy of Randall Munroe. Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the dat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 20:00 Fri 08 Feb , Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > >>> This message brought to you by GNU Emacs. > >> > >> http://www.notepad.org/ > >> > > Bah, any editor that can't psychoanalyze a pinhead is completely > > unusable for any purpose. > > http://ars.us

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> This message brought to you by GNU Emacs. >> >> http://www.notepad.org/ >> > Bah, any editor that can't psychoanalyze a pinhead is completely > unusable for any purpose. http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080206

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 8, 2008 7:33 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 8, 2008 5:05 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You are *insane*. > > > > This message brought to you by GNU Emacs. > > > > http://www.notepad.org/ > Bah, any editor that can't psychoanalyze a pinhead is c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Feb 8, 2008 5:05 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are *insane*. > > This message brought to you by GNU Emacs. > http://www.notepad.org/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 17:01 Fri 08 Feb , Roger Hicks wrote: > On Feb 8, 2008 3:08 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 8, 2008 5:04 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, yes. The strange ruleset formatting. I typically write my > > > proposals either in gmail (text-only) or notepad. > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Feb 8, 2008 3:08 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 8, 2008 5:04 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ah, yes. The strange ruleset formatting. I typically write my > > proposals either in gmail (text-only) or notepad. > I recommend you get a good Windows editor like notepad+

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread comex
On Feb 8, 2008 5:04 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, yes. The strange ruleset formatting. I typically write my > proposals either in gmail (text-only) or notepad. I recommend you get a good Windows editor like notepad++ or editpad lite or something. (Not a guarantee that those will

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Feb 8, 2008 2:57 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roger Hicks wrote: > >I didn't modify anything except the text. > > The text is one of the attributes of a proposal that you can't modify > after submission. I suggest that you withdraw your existing proposal > and submit a new one that h

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Feb 8, 2008 2:50 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 8, 2008 4:43 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unwrapped? > > Not hard wrapped to 70 characters per line of which 6 at the beginning > are spaces, i.e. > As soon as possible after the beginning of each month the IA

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >I didn't modify anything except the text. The text is one of the attributes of a proposal that you can't modify after submission. I suggest that you withdraw your existing proposal and submit a new one that has the text that you want. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Feb 8, 2008 11:51 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roger Hicks wrote: > >I revise my proposal titled Ostracism v2 as follows: > > You can't modify any of these attributes of a proposal after submission. > I suggest that you withdraw the existing proposal and submit a new one. > I didn't m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread comex
On Feb 8, 2008 4:43 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unwrapped? Not hard wrapped to 70 characters per line of which 6 at the beginning are spaces, i.e. As soon as possible after the beginning of each month the IADoP SHALL initiate an dependent action to ostracize with a ...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Feb 8, 2008 11:53 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/8/08, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I revise my proposal titled Ostracism v2 as follows: > > > > unwrapped proposal > > Call me pedantic, but I still dislike unwrapped proposals. A pity, > since I otherwise support this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Feb 8, 2008 11:53 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Call me pedantic, but I still dislike unwrapped proposals. So do I, but I wouldn't base my vote upon that. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread comex
On 2/8/08, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I revise my proposal titled Ostracism v2 as follows: > > unwrapped proposal Call me pedantic, but I still dislike unwrapped proposals. A pity, since I otherwise support this entirely.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
This seems long and cumbersome, two full decisions. Maybe the initial vote should be Agoran Consent (same 2/3 majority index?). You should also re-write the first decision to be enabling as well as requiring, in other words "if the outcome is APPROVED, the IADoP CAN and SHALL as soon as poss

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal

2008-02-07 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >decision, the valid options are the players, the eligible voters are >the active players, quorum is 1/2 the number of active players >(rounded down), and the vote collector is the IADoP. The eligible voters should be only the (active) *first-class* players. Quorum should be sim