Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:17 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is like the "decrease by -1" scam. > > Any programming language with a 'decrease' method would allow you to > decrease by -1 in order to increase by 1; but that is (arguably; I > still disagree :) not standard usa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread comex
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It can't, but go back and read what I wrote earlier; there is another > > interpretation of transference that you haven't addressed. > > I don't see t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:36 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assuming you're referring to what I quoted... I don't think being > "transferred to a state of being owned by" and entity is a reasonable > interpretation of an asset being "transferred to" it. The latter (as > evidenced by its wo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It can't, but go back and read what I wrote earlier; there is another > interpretation of transference that you haven't addressed. I don't see the distinction. You seem to be arguing that "being in the ownership of " and "bei

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread comex
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Is it reasonable to interpret assets as being transferred from a > >> >> state of being unowned to a state of being owned by ? > It can't, but go back and read what I wrote earlier; there is another > interpretation

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> comex wrote: >> >> > On 3/17/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Is it reasonable to interpret assets as being transferred from a >> >> state of being unowned to a state of being owned by ? >> >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > comex wrote: > > > On 3/17/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is it reasonable to interpret assets as being transferred from a > >> state of being unowned to a state of being owned by ? > > > > Yes, but it is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On 3/17/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is it reasonable to interpret assets as being transferred from a >> state of being unowned to a state of being owned by ? > > Yes, but it is unreasonable to interpret objects as being transferred > from the ownership of to the ow

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread comex
On 3/17/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it reasonable to interpret assets as being transferred from a > state of being unowned to a state of being owned by ? Yes, but it is unreasonable to interpret objects as being transferred from the ownership of to the ownership of .

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-17 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> a) "gained by" does not apply; "gain" is explicitly defined (by the >> fourth paragraph of Rule 2166) as applying only to newly created >> assets. "transferred to" is ambiguous; it is not explicitly

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > In the interest of preserving the intent of the rule (and I should > know, I wrote it), I have no opinion on the rest of the CFJ, but I have to call you out here: you wrote it with one intent, but voters read it and may have voted it in with another/misun

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the interest of preserving the intent of the rule (and I should > know, I wrote it), I interpret that 3) does apply, and does take > precedence over 1) and 2). Accordingly, I judge TRUE. One final point. This judgement

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 1910

2008-03-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think the analogy fits. A boat traveling from international > waters was somewhere else before it was in international waters. > Unless it was constructed there, but even in that unusual situation, > the material,