Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 15:20 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > I'm starting to get the impression that basing an economy on proposal > > pending never works. Sometimes, distributing a proposal is part of a > > scam, and thus worth paying for / fighting over. Ho

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 15:22 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Quazie wrote: > > I withdraw all proposals i've submitted to the Proposal Competition > > as the > > thing just doesn't work and is currently a useless concept. > > > > I Encourage everyone to ignore the Pro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:23 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Quazie wrote: > > I withdraw all proposals i've submitted to the Proposal Competition as > the > > thing just doesn't work and is currently a useless concept. > > > > I Enco

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 5 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > I'm starting to get the impression that basing an economy on proposal > pending never works. Sometimes, distributing a proposal is part of a > scam, and thus worth paying for / fighting over. However, the majority > of proposals are intended to be "for the

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Quazie wrote: > I withdraw all proposals i've submitted to the Proposal Competition as the > thing just doesn't work and is currently a useless concept. > > I Encourage everyone to ignore the Proposal Competition. > Wait, don't be hasty. We haven't figured out how

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 15:09 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > IIRC, the pending system worked rather differently when we invented > > proposal competitions. > > Yeah. For everyone who doesn't know, we didn't have an economy until December. The pr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Quazie wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:03 PM Alex Smith wrote: >> >> Proto: the pender of a proposal and the submitter must be different >> people. When a proposal is pended, the pender gains some fraction of >> the pend fee. (In my experience, preventing peopl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Nic Evans
On 06/05/2017 05:03 PM, Alex Smith wrote: I'm starting to get the impression that basing an economy on proposal pending never works. Sometimes, distributing a proposal is part of a scam, and thus worth paying for / fighting over. However, the majority of proposals are intended to be "for the good

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 21:53 +, Quazie wrote: >> I thought the whole point of a proposal competition was to distribute a >> bunch of proposals without paying for them. Proposal competitions are >> apparently useless - darn. > > IIRC, the pend

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:03 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 21:53 +, Quazie wrote: > > I thought the whole point of a proposal competition was to distribute a > > bunch of proposals without paying for them. Proposal competitions are > > apparently useless - darn. > > IIRC, the p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 21:53 +, Quazie wrote: > I thought the whole point of a proposal competition was to distribute a > bunch of proposals without paying for them.  Proposal competitions are > apparently useless - darn. IIRC, the pending system worked rather differently when we invented propo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:48 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > And ... the issues begin, too. NOT ANY CFJs: I want to see if > we can resolve these with discussion without mucking up the competition. > > > 1. From R2431: "During the Agoran Week following the initiation of a > Proposal Competition

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
And ... the issues begin, too. NOT ANY CFJs: I want to see if we can resolve these with discussion without mucking up the competition. 1. From R2431: "During the Agoran Week following the initiation of a Proposal Competition"... Does "the Agoran week following the initiation" mean this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Quazie
Agreed - It was a foolish mistake on my part. WIll try to get better. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:35 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This is not a major issue, but I would appreciate if people could stop > sending emails to multiple lists. > -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
This is not a major issue, but I would appreciate if people could stop sending emails to multiple lists. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Quazie wrote: > > I retract "Prime Minister Says What?" From the pool and the competi

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Quazie
I retract "Prime Minister Says What?" From the pool and the competition. I submit the following replacement proposal for the Proposal Competition Trivial Proposal "Prime Minister Says What? (v2)" AI = 2, co-author="Typos, PSS" mess="Typos" {{{ In rule 2423 replace: {{{ The holder of the

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal Competition] A series of Competition Proposals

2017-06-05 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
You have a typo in the replacement because “all Agoran decisions other on elections” doesn’t make any sense. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Quazie wrote: > > Trivial Proposal "Prime Minister Says What?" AI = 2, co-author=