Re: DIS: Nudge: [Tournament] Proposed Regulations

2019-07-30 Thread Aris Merchant
Noted, and I’m not planning to let it drop. I’m just trying to finish up my other Agoran work first, since once I start this it’ll take up most of my Agoran time. I’m also having a personal crisis (romantic trouble, it’s not like anyone died, but it still feels pretty all consuming) which is slowin

DIS: Nudge: [Tournament] Proposed Regulations

2019-07-30 Thread Jason Cobb
I note that 4 days have elapsed since this intent and that 3 objections have not been given. [Sorry if there's a reason for this to have not happened yet, I just don't want this to end up forgotten and another waiting period to be required.] Jason Cobb On 7/24/19 6:57 PM, Aris Merchant wrot

Re: DIS: Clairvoyand Roshambo (was Ratification via closed timelike curves (was [proposal] Contract party fixes))

2019-07-30 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/30/19 10:59 PM, James Cook wrote: Incidentally, I think the inextricable thing was recently repealed in Proposal 8212. You're right, I guess https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/slr.txt isn't fresh right now. What's worse is that I wrote the proposal that repealed that rule :P. Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Clairvoyand Roshambo (was Ratification via closed timelike curves (was [proposal] Contract party fixes))

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 02:45, Jason Cobb wrote: > How does this work with conditionals? A conditional on the state of the > wheel would probably be inextricable, but I don't see any text that > actually stops inextricable conditionals (except for a SHOULD) besides > voting. > > Jason Cobb That's

Re: DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 16:06, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Proto for time protection (a homage to B Nomic): > > Amend Rule 1698 (Agora Is A Nomic) by replacing its first paragraph > with: > >Agora is ossified if it is IMPOSSIBLE for any reasonable >combination of actions by players to caus

Re: DIS: Clairvoyand Roshambo (was Ratification via closed timelike curves (was [proposal] Contract party fixes))

2019-07-30 Thread Jason Cobb
How does this work with conditionals? A conditional on the state of the wheel would probably be inextricable, but I don't see any text that actually stops inextricable conditionals (except for a SHOULD) besides voting. Jason Cobb On 7/30/19 10:42 PM, James Cook wrote: New subject line as I'm

DIS: Clairvoyand Roshambo (was Ratification via closed timelike curves (was [proposal] Contract party fixes))

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
New subject line as I'm hoping to focus a new thread just on this proto-proposal. The below power-0.5 game is intended as a test of the idea of actions depending on the future. I'm happy to reduce the winning condition to just getting some Coins or a congratulations or something, if people prefer.

Re: DIS: Ratification via closed timelike curves (was [proposal] Contract party fixes)

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
Okay, first, practical matters: * Given your position on the matter, Aris, I don't plan to push for this change any time soon. * I'm still keen to try out the power-0.5 mini game. I have at least one correction which I'll post separately. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Now, less-practi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
> - Enforce this norm by lowering people's honor for not following it (I > just generally like the idea of using honor to reinforce norms since it > doesn't do much else) I like this idea. -- - Falsifian

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 02:31, Edward Murphy wrote: > I vote as follows. Also, not sure what the difficulties were here, but > in any case, how would people feel about multiple distributions per week > (5 to 10 per day, say)? (No, I'm not bidding for the office myself.) As a voter, I would be just

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread nch
On 7/28/19 4:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Incidentally, it’s pretty unlikely that I could persuade y’all to approve this, but my life would be way simpler if proposals could only be submitted in messages that had “proposal” in the subject line. Currently, I have to read through every public messag

Re: DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 4:40 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > be no posts at all (maybe for months at a time), so anyone inquiring > about what was happening (or even paying attention to the mailing list, > typically prompted by a message) would imply an end to the slump. lol Wooble literally

Re: DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Tue, 2019-07-30 at 15:08 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:32 AM Jason Cobb > wrote: > > Oddly enough, while I was looking for nomics, I found B Nomic and > > saw that there was no activity for a while. I guess that explains > > that. > > > > Out of curiosity, is there any

Re: DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
ais523 is our resident expert I think (sorry if I'm forgetting anyone else who was there!) Some others of us from Agora dropped in to observe when it was all going on but didn't really get involved. On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:32 AM Jason Cobb wrote: > Oddly enough, while I was looking for nomic

Re: DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:24 AM Aris Merchant wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:06 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Proto for time protection (a homage to B Nomic): > > > > Amend Rule 1698 (Agora Is A Nomic) by replacing its first paragraph > > with: > > > >Agora is ossified if it is IMPOS

DIS: Re: BUS: Rewards

2019-07-30 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/30/19 3:00 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: I claim a reward of 5 cops for judging CFJ 3759. I'm not sure how those policemen will feel about you claiming them :). Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3759 judged FALSE

2019-07-30 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/30/19 2:59 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Jason Cobb did not publish any message stating eir intent to declare victory by apathy. Accordingly, e could not declare apathy. FALSE. Well, I tried :P. Although I guess I'm glad that I didn't manage to ossify the game. Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Ratification via closed timelike curves (was [proposal] Contract party fixes)

2019-07-30 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 8:19 AM James Cook wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 06:57, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > First off, I’m very happy you published this. It’s very interesting and it > > adds a lot to the discourse. I will now proceed to state why I think it’s a > > bad idea. (Upon retreading

Re: DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread Jason Cobb
Oddly enough, while I was looking for nomics, I found B Nomic and saw that there was no activity for a while. I guess that explains that. Out of curiosity, is there anywhere with more information about the bug and what happened? On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 12:05 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Proto for ti

Re: DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:06 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Proto for time protection (a homage to B Nomic): > > Amend Rule 1698 (Agora Is A Nomic) by replacing its first paragraph > with: > >Agora is ossified if it is IMPOSSIBLE for any reasonable >combination of actions by players t

DIS: [Proto] Time protection

2019-07-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
Proto for time protection (a homage to B Nomic): Amend Rule 1698 (Agora Is A Nomic) by replacing its first paragraph with: Agora is ossified if it is IMPOSSIBLE for any reasonable combination of actions by players to cause arbitrary rule changes to be made and/or arbitrary pr

Re: DIS: Ratification via closed timelike curves (was [proposal] Contract party fixes)

2019-07-30 Thread James Cook
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 06:57, Aris Merchant wrote: > First off, I’m very happy you published this. It’s very interesting and it > adds a lot to the discourse. I will now proceed to state why I think it’s a > bad idea. (Upon retreading your post, these amount to explanations of why > concerns c and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8215-8234

2019-07-30 Thread Reuben Staley
On 7/28/19 4:04 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> On 7/28/2019 2:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Incidentally, it’s pretty unlikely that I could persuade y’all to approve > this, but my life would be way simpler if proposals could only be submitted > in messages that had “proposal” in the subject line. Cu