Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > woggle wrote: > >> The second NoV (which wasn't on 19 May) named the crime correctly. The >> first did not. > > Does this invalidate CFJ 2537? > No it does not. The second NoV, on May 25, was valid (BobTHJ has yet to post a notice to that effect though).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex wrote: > E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale > proposals from the pool. I did in fact do just that, assuming that I'd get an objection. However, when I didn't, I figured trying to get an AI-3 proposal passed was a lot harde

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 remanded to Taral by Wooble (AFFIRM), Rodlen (AFFIRM but NttPF), Tiger

2009-05-25 Thread Taral
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2480a > >  Appeal 2480a   > > Panelist:                               Wooble > Panelist:                               Rodlen > Pan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: > The second NoV (which wasn't on 19 May) named the crime correctly. The > first did not. Does this invalidate CFJ 2537?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/25/09 5:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: [snip] > ps. court cases raised about a document should block ratification, > not just self-ratificatation; generalization of R2201 in order here? I don't think that's a good idea unless CFJs raised about a document can be more clearly/objectively identified.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/25/09 5:28 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > woggle wrote: > > >>> !05/19:001 17:16 comex Wooble 22038forgery >>> >>> >> CoE: This notice was invalid. The crime it named, "Forgery", is not >> specified by the rules. >> > The NoV named "Endorsing Forgery", which is spe

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2524 assigned to coppro

2009-05-25 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2524 >>> >>> == Equity Case 2524 == >>> >>> c-walker flipped the contestmaster of the C# Party to Murphy. >>> >>> =

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > That made me look something up, though-- how exactly does ratification > of the ruleset work again? The Rule Changes involved are generally > not clearly specified, no rule allows Rule 1551 (Ratification) to make > Rule Changes specifically, and Rule 105 (Rule Changes) takes > prece

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > -Goethe See, I forget too. I'll get it eventually. -G.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Gratuitous: Publishing an erroneous report (power-1 Rule) is less > serious than ratifying one (Class-8 Crime). Mitigating argument: Ratifying a report that everyone understands to be erroneous for the good of the game (or what the officer reasonably perc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 18:28, Ed Murphy wrote: >> woggle wrote: >> !05/19:001  17:16  comex      Wooble     2203    8    forgery >>> CoE: This notice was invalid. The crime it named, "Forgery", is not >>> specified by the rules. >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex wrote: >> E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale >> proposals from the pool. > > And since I don't know what they all are, someone would claim that the > proposal didn't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex wrote: > E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale > proposals from the pool. And since I don't know what they all are, someone would claim that the proposal didn't specify which proposals clearly enough.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: >> !05/19:001 17:16 comex Wooble 22038forgery >> > CoE: This notice was invalid. The crime it named, "Forgery", is not > specified by the rules. The NoV named "Endorsing Forgery", which is specified by the rules; it's only the report that omitted "Endorsing".

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Gratuitous:  As judge didn't notice the ratification attempt; if I > had noticed it I would have delayed the judgement to avoid the issue. > Since the judgement found that, to the best of available evidence, > there had been no ratifications in

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Arguments in my defense: > > While ais523 was able to find one proposal that was in the pool that > was not in the published report, simply adding that proposal to the > report would not have guaranteed the accuracy of the report, any more >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM, comex wrote: >>> I initiate a criminal CFJ, noting that the Accused had plenty of >>> warning and the opportunity to avoid violating the rule. > > Arguments in my defense: > > While ais523 was able to find one proposal that was in the pool

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:41 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > While ais523 was able to find one proposal that was in the pool that > was not in the published report, simply adding that proposal to the > report would not have guaranteed the accuracy of the report, any more > than my looking through the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread comex
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Taral wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:44 AM, comex wrote: >> This was sent two hours after Goethe's judgement that a certain other >> proposal existed in the pool.  Accordingly, NoV: Wooble violated R2202 >> and committed the Class-8 Crime of Endorsing Forgery

DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 21:08 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Cookie Jar Report > > wrt the Cookie Jar: I guess 19 proposals, 22 CFJs. > 15 proposals, 20 CFJs. Pavitra signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory

2009-05-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/23 Sean Hunt : > Tiger: > I act on Tiger's behalf to create 2 Rests in eir possession. > I act on behalf of Tiger to destroy none of eir scrolls and award em no >  scrolls. > I award Tiger 1 y-point. > I award Tiger 5 x-points. > I award Tiger 7 x-points. > I award Tiger 9 y-points. > I revo

DIS: Re: BUS: B

2009-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:34 +0100, Charles Walker wrote: > B has flipped its recognition of Agora to Friendly, and as Ambassador > I am obliged to inform you of this. In case you don't know how to > contact us, B's PF is spoon-busin...@nomic.net. We do; Agora recognises B too. -- ais523 Agoran A