On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Dvorak Herring wrote:
>> 6194 Pragmatic Contestmaster Award Eligibility D 2.0 1 root
>
> AGAINST
>>
>> 6195 Fix Contestmaster Axis Uniqueness D 2.0 1 root
>
> AGAINST
Any particular reason for voting against these?
FYI, I will probably resign S
comex wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> Rule 2170 doesn't say it does. There's a strong implication that all
>> elements must be relevant to Agora or they don't trigger the rule, but
>> a-d is relevant to Agora.
>
> Note: CFJ 2325
Note: effectiveness of stuff done in
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Rule 2170 doesn't say it does. There's a strong implication that all
> elements must be relevant to Agora or they don't trigger the rule, but
> a-d is relevant to Agora.
Note: CFJ 2325
BobTHJ wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 15:14, Elliott Hird
> wrote:
>> 2009/4/6 Aaron Goldfein :
>>> Okay... I call for judgment on the fact that the name Abraham de Lacey
>>> Giuseppe Casey Thomas O'Malley is a confusing nickname.
>> Don't bother, Warrigal does this stuff all the time.
>>
>
> P
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 15:14, Elliott Hird
wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Aaron Goldfein :
>> Okay... I call for judgment on the fact that the name Abraham de Lacey
>> Giuseppe Casey Thomas O'Malley is a confusing nickname.
>
> Don't bother, Warrigal does this stuff all the time.
>
Plus, the requested name ch
ais523 wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 14:27 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
>>> The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it
>>> back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports
>>> are "manual scraping"
2009/4/6 Elliott Hird :
> 2009/4/6 Jonatan Kilhamn :
>> I can't be bothered to read all that, I'm sorry, but it's not at all
>> what I meant. From what I can see Mornington Nomic is more of a nomic
>> meant to look like a game of MC than a game of MC fitted into a nomic.
>> The beauty of MC is maki
2009/4/6 Jonatan Kilhamn :
> I can't be bothered to read all that, I'm sorry, but it's not at all
> what I meant. From what I can see Mornington Nomic is more of a nomic
> meant to look like a game of MC than a game of MC fitted into a nomic.
> The beauty of MC is making up the rules as you go, not
2009/4/6 Aaron Goldfein :
> Okay... I call for judgment on the fact that the name Abraham de Lacey
> Giuseppe Casey Thomas O'Malley is a confusing nickname.
Don't bother, Warrigal does this stuff all the time.
2009/4/6 Ian Kelly :
> with, say, wikia syntax?
I feel tempted to slightly misquote jwz.
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:06 -0400, Jamie Dallaire wrote:
> I'm not that familiar with MC, but what you're describing sounds like
> it might fit well as a round of the Fantasy Rules Committee. As long
> as you start with an appropriate first rule for the round that sets up
> the ground rules of MC,
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Alex Smith :
> > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:50 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> >> 2009/4/6 Alex Smith :
> >> > Rather different from what you thought up, though; the "old ruleset"
> >> > looks like quite an interesting and fun ruleset
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:59 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> Okay, well, not in mine. At least that's not the kind of game I want
> to create now. I take it you're not a big fan of MC as it's originally
> played?
It's a great game in the abstract, but only if it has no important
side-effects. Mergi
2009/4/6 Alex Smith :
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:50 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
>> 2009/4/6 Alex Smith :
>> > Rather different from what you thought up, though; the "old ruleset"
>> > looks like quite an interesting and fun ruleset for Mornington Crescent.
>> I can't be bothered to read all that,
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:50 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Alex Smith :
> > Rather different from what you thought up, though; the "old ruleset"
> > looks like quite an interesting and fun ruleset for Mornington Crescent.
> I can't be bothered to read all that, I'm sorry, but it's not at
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Warrigal wrote:
>> --Thomas O'Malley (see, I remembered this time)
>
> What is your official name anyway "Warrigal"?
I believe it's Abraham de Lacey Giuseppe Casey Thomas O'Malley.
--Thomas O'Malley
2009/4/6 Alex Smith :
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:33 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
>> Is the idea even feasible? I am thinking somewhere along the lines of
>> the original Mornington Crescent, with all its nuances and strategies,
>> being played as a contest monitored by a few meta-rules. So a move
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Warrigal
> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Luke Benner
> wrote:
> > I am requesting to join Agora. The name I will be writing under will be
> > Randy Olshaw.
>
> Lessee, by Rule 217, "to join Agora" is the same as "to register", so
> you're requesting r
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:33 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> Is the idea even feasible? I am thinking somewhere along the lines of
> the original Mornington Crescent, with all its nuances and strategies,
> being played as a contest monitored by a few meta-rules. So a move
> consists of a description
Is the idea even feasible? I am thinking somewhere along the lines of
the original Mornington Crescent, with all its nuances and strategies,
being played as a contest monitored by a few meta-rules. So a move
consists of a description of the move with things like "Nice move,
I'll have to rethink thi
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 14:27 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> > The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it
> > back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports
> > are "manual scraping" by copy/paste. So
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
>> The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it
>> back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports
>> are "manual scraping" by copy/paste. So migr
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it
> back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports
> are "manual scraping" by copy/paste. So migrating back would be rather
> tricky and time-consuming,
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 14:10 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Elliott Hird
> wrote:
> > Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I
> > doubt it.)
>
> Non-linear edits? Are you referring to branching/merging?
>
More to the point, Wikidot doesn't ev
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Elliott Hird
wrote:
> Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I
> doubt it.)
Non-linear edits? Are you referring to branching/merging?
-root
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:54 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Elliott Hird
> wrote:
> > Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I
> > doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface
> > that requires javascript and that ha
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Elliott Hird
wrote:
> Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I
> doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface
> that requires javascript and that has no way to get non-HTML out of
> it; even scraping is prohibited b
ehird wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
>> A wiki is just a VCS with a GUI front-end. Â Discuss.
>
> Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I
> doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface
> that requires javascript and that has no way to get non-HTM
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 20:41 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
> > A wiki is just a VCS with a GUI front-end. Discuss.
>
> Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I
> doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface
> that requires java
2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
> A wiki is just a VCS with a GUI front-end. Discuss.
Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I
doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface
that requires javascript and that has no way to get non-HTML out of
it; even scraping
ehird wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
>> The main advantage I see with a wiki is that it's easy for anyone else
>> to review the change history (I'm sure you could make this possible
>> with $FAVORITE_VCS as well, but probably not as easy). Â I agree that it
>> doesn't make much difference to the No
2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
> The main advantage I see with a wiki is that it's easy for anyone else
> to review the change history (I'm sure you could make this possible
> with $FAVORITE_VCS as well, but probably not as easy). I agree that it
> doesn't make much difference to the Notary if e's equally f
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 13:04 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> {{{
>
> Amend Rule 2234 (Rewarding Contestmasters) to read:
>
> As soon as possible after the end of a month, for each contest,
> the player (if any) who was its contestmaster for at least 16
> days during that month MAY once
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> I request subsidy.
nttpf
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:15 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
> ais523 wrote:
>
> > As for the general issue of attachments, I'm not sure how well they're
> > archived in the usual Agora archives, which could become a problem down
> > the lines.
>
> I believe they're blocked. Speaking of the archives, bas
ais523 wrote:
> As for the general issue of attachments, I'm not sure how well they're
> archived in the usual Agora archives, which could become a problem down
> the lines.
I believe they're blocked. Speaking of the archives, base64 messages
also show up in encoded form (see CFJ 1580), though a
ais523 wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:15 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
>> 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
>>> For entering things, sure, but for being able to analyze purported
>>> errors and correct them if needed? Not everyone has their own VCS.
>>>
>> (git|darcs|hg) is hard, let's go shopping.
>
> Durin
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:00 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 19:57 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> >> I award 20+14i points to ais523
> >
> > I believe this brought me to a winning score; although 3 x-points have
> > since been re
2009/4/6 Ian Kelly :
> Is it also incapable of using the xlrd python package?
>
> -root
>
Why must we rely on brittle formats (that even the vendor does not
recommend any more -- don't you even mention OOXML...) that only have
open implementations by virtue of reverse engineering? I deeply oppose
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 10:23 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:29 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> >> Like... Microsoft Excel.
> >
> > As far as I know, TNP2 couldn't read an Excel file; it has no
> > spreadsheet software installe
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:29 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> Like... Microsoft Excel.
>
> As far as I know, TNP2 couldn't read an Excel file; it has no
> spreadsheet software installed, is probably on too small a server to run
> OpenOffice, and ru
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:29 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 04:41 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
> > CoE: This is incorrect. See the PNP's most recent message containing the
> > list of parties.
> Ugh, I always manage to forget to update the PNP list somehow. My brain
> just filters out P
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 04:41 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
> CoE: This is incorrect. See the PNP's most recent message containing the
> list of parties.
Ugh, I always manage to forget to update the PNP list somehow. My brain
just filters out PNP party-change messages the same way it filters out
spam and a
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:15 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
> 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
> > For entering things, sure, but for being able to analyze purported
> > errors and correct them if needed? Not everyone has their own VCS.
> >
>
> (git|darcs|hg) is hard, let's go shopping.
During my previous stint
2009/4/6 Luke Benner :
> In the case that someone would want to increase the power of a previous rule
> he will have to satisfy the conditions:
> The player had not increased the proposal before
> The player will give a guaranteed 'yes' vote to the next proposal
> The player will also have to inclu
2009/4/6 Ed Murphy :
> For entering things, sure, but for being able to analyze purported
> errors and correct them if needed? Not everyone has their own VCS.
>
(git|darcs|hg) is hard, let's go shopping.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 21:53, Elliott Hird
wrote:
> On 2009-04-06, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> Like... Microsoft Excel.
>>
>
>
> Fuck.
>
> No.
>
I transfer a prop from ehird to Bill Gates for use of foul language. :)
BobTHJ
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:29 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> Like... Microsoft Excel.
As far as I know, TNP2 couldn't read an Excel file; it has no
spreadsheet software installed, is probably on too small a server to run
OpenOffice, and runs the wrong OS to run Excel. (You'd be surprised how
much re
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