DIS: Re: BUS: I need a break

2008-12-10 Thread Charles Schaefer
2008/12/10, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Anyone want to take over Notary now that it's been caught up? > Sure. -- Charles Schaefer

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2295 assigned to Taral

2008-12-10 Thread Taral
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2295 > > = Criminal Case 2295 = > >BobTHJ failed to assign prerogatives for December in a timely >fashion before

DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-12-10 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I inform the PerlNomic Partnership of the following criminal cases > against it, and invite it to rebut the argument for its guilt. (I > don't think it's capable of sending arbitrary messages in a timely > fashion, so I also u

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2299 assigned to Warrigal

2008-12-10 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> == CFJ 2299 == >> >>Pavitra has won on or about December 3rd, 2008. > > As no arguments have

DIS: test

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
test

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 16:09, The PerlNomic Partnership <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^8. > The PNP withdraws one 4 crop from the PBA for ^9. > Using a Addition Mill, the PNP mills 4 + 4 = 8. > The PNP deposits one 8 crop into the PBA to gain ^26. > The

DIS: More on CFJ 2307

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Gratuituous arguments on CFJ 2307: The PerlNomic Partnership contract includes this clause: {{{ 5. The PerlNomic Partnership shall act by using the mechanisms of the PerlNomic game to send messages to the appropriate Agoran fora. This is the only mechanism by which the PerlNomic Partnershi

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: > I believe Warrigal is the Executor of the quoted message from the PNP > (based on http://nomic.info/perlnomic/log.txt ). Gratuituous evidence: Relevant line of the log cited by woggle: Tue Dec 9 20:38:54 2008 - update_agora.cgi: ihope sent a message with subject 'PNP Parties Ch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 21:22, comex wrote: Please retract this. No. It didn't work.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 20:37, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Rule 2124 doesn't explicitly state that the objection must be posted >> after the announcement of intent. > I object to all future dependent actions. Please retract this.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ruling in CFJ 2301

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Joshua Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's worth something like 5-6 Chits. 4.92795 chits.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6014-6017

2008-12-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 13:34, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 20:31, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> SELL(1VP - AGAINST) - This should have addressed the issue of the Note >> Exchange in the process. If it did I would vote for it. > > That can be handled via the Note Exchange.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > it does if you can actually preemptively support dependent actions, > which you probably can't. Rule 2124 doesn't explicitly state that the objection must be posted after the announcement of intent.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ruling in CFJ 2301

2008-12-10 Thread Joshua Boehme
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:28:32 + Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 20:26, Roger Hicks wrote: > > > As required by this sentence I destroy one coin in my possession. > > > I would recommend judges to fine more like 10 coins in future, 1 coin is > near-worthless. It'

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6014-6017

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 20:31, Roger Hicks wrote: SELL(1VP - AGAINST) - This should have addressed the issue of the Note Exchange in the process. If it did I would vote for it. That can be handled via the Note Exchange.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6014-6017

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 20:31, Roger Hicks wrote: 6017 D 1 3.0 Elysion Resurrect Rule 2140 SELL(1VP - PRESENT) For what it's worth, I will repeat the vote invalidation to handle the case of the Scam working, so all you're doing is either a no-op or getting a duplicate rule.

DIS: Re: BUS: Ruling in CFJ 2301

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 20:26, Roger Hicks wrote: As required by this sentence I destroy one coin in my possession. I would recommend judges to fine more like 10 coins in future, 1 coin is near-worthless.

DIS: Stealth protectorateship

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
If trying to make a nomic into a protectorateship, would the following be sufficient, despite its obfuscation? {{NOMIC NAME recognizes a relationship with Agora where it is Protectorate and accepts any agreements required to receive such a status from Agora.}}

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Elliott Hird >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:31, Roger Hicks wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Elliott Hird >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:31, Roger Hicks wrote: >>> I (if possible) pre-emptively support any judgment of REMAND or REASSIG

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:31, Roger Hicks wrote: >> >>> I (if possible) pre-emptively support any judgment of REMAND or REASSIGN. >> >> nttpf > > dhtbttpf

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Taral
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:31, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> I (if possible) pre-emptively support any judgment of REMAND or REASSIGN. > > nttpf dhtbttpf -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further troub

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Taral
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I intend, with the support of 2 of {BobTHJ, root, Murphy} to cause the >> panel to judge AFFIRM, accepting the trial judge's arguments as a good >> faith attempt to resolve the case. > > good faith attempt does not apply an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 19:02, Ed Murphy wrote: IMO, becoming an active player of PerlNomic constitutes sufficiently "explicit, willful consent" to satisfy R101(iii), whereas merely making an announcement does not. Similarly for the others. (I would cite CFJ 1290, but the standard at that time

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Warrigal wrote: > "This is a public contract and a pledge known as Wooble's Mousetrap. > Parties to this contract are known as Mice. Every player who makes an > announcement (other than an announcement of eir deregistration) is a > Mouse; no other persons are Mice. Mice SHALL do anything Warrigal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:31, Roger Hicks wrote: I (if possible) pre-emptively support any judgment of REMAND or REASSIGN. nttpf

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:15, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2282a >> >> Appeal 2282a > > I in

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6014-6017

2008-12-10 Thread Sgeo
> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE > 6014 O 1 1.7 Goethe Re-streamline Appeals > 6015 D 1 2.0 WarrigalMake notes not annoying > 6016 D 1 3.0 OscarMeyr Order of the Hero > 6017 D 1 3.0 Elysion Resurrect Rule 2140 I vote SELL(2VP) on all of these.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resurrect Rule 2140 (AI=3)

2008-12-10 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:10, comex wrote: > >> What happened to the old one? > > Power Controls Mutability? The scam? Vote invalidation? The only way Power Controls Mutability is gone is if the original annotation proposal pas

DIS: Re: BUS: Banking

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:51, Joshua Boehme wrote: Wow, the bank rates are almost rational... Wowzers. :P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:00, Warrigal wrote: >> A player plays Bolero by making an announcement (other than an >> announcement of eir deregistration)." > > This is where it fails. > > Well, it also fails in that contracts are e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:18, Warrigal wrote: "playing Bolero therefore indicates that one agrees to this contract." No dice.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resurrect Rule 2140 (AI=3)

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:10, comex wrote: What happened to the old one? Power Controls Mutability? The scam? Vote invalidation? C'mon...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:00, Warrigal wrote: >> A player plays Bolero by making an announcement (other than an >> announcement of eir deregistration)." > > This is where it fails. > > Well, it also fails in that contracts are e

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resurrect Rule 2140 (AI=3)

2008-12-10 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Joshua Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I submit the following proposal. > > > Proposal: Resurrect Rule 2140 (AI=3) What happened to the old one?

DIS: Re: BUS: Zooping

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:03, comex wrote: I agree to the following pledge: { This is a pledge, and a public contract, called "Looping". Nobody can join this contract. comex CAN amend, terminate, or leave this contract by announcement. The Notary CAN terminate this contract by announcement. To l

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 14:00, Warrigal wrote: A player plays Bolero by making an announcement (other than an announcement of eir deregistration)." This is where it fails. Well, it also fails in that contracts are explicitly restricted in Agora. But if it was a real game, that'd be where it fails.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Resurrect Rule 2140 (AI=3)

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 13:19, Joshua Boehme wrote: I submit the following proposal. You know, the appeals processes aren't done. I'll return it if the scam is judged to have worked myself, and if it didn't, it was never repealed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you're not a member of the Partnership, the PNP CANNOT act by your >> actions using the mechanisms of the game and thus did not publish that >> message. > > How do you conclude that? You quoted it yourself: "The PerlNomic P

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Dec 2008, at 04:46, Warrigal wrote: I zoop a criminal case against the PerlNomic Partnership for violating Rule 2215 by announcing that I am a party to it in the quoted message. You ARE a party to it.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the PNP? (It was: "The PerlNomic Partnership shall act by using the >> mechanisms of the PerlNomic game to send messages to the appropriate >> Agoran

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the PNP? (It was: "The PerlNomic Partnership shall act by using the > mechanisms of the PerlNomic game to send messages to the appropriate > Agoran fora. This is the only mechanism by which the PerlNomic > Partnership may act."

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gratuitous arguments: > > I believe Warrigal is the Executor of the quoted message from the PNP > (based on http://nomic.info/perlnomic/log.txt ). You are correct, but I don't believe that makes any non-GUILTY judgement a

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I zoop a criminal case against the PerlNomic Partnership for violating > Rule 2215 by announcing that I am a party to it in the quoted message. I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ against Warrigal for violating