Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 1917

2008-04-03 Thread Iammars
pikhq, I'm the caller of your CFJ, not the judge. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > On 11:55 Thu 03 Apr , Iammars wrote: > >> I judge CFJ 1917 in the following manner: > >> { > >> The defendant has admi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 1917

2008-04-03 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 18:58 Thu 03 Apr , Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > On 11:55 Thu 03 Apr , Iammars wrote: > >> I judge CFJ 1917 in the following manner: > >> { > >> The defendant has admitted to being guilty, and in fact has not published a > >> notary report las

DIS: Re: BUS: Asset testing

2008-04-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree to this: > > 1) This public contract is named Universe 1. > 2) Beans are a class of assets. > 3) The recordkeepor of beans is Murphy. > 4) Beans are restricted to the class of players whose nickname >is M

DIS: Re: BUS: Asset testing

2008-04-03 Thread comex
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Ed Murphy > I create 2 beads in my possession. > I call for judgement on the following statements: > > * Murphy has a bead. > * pikhq has a bead. I suggest that each contract defined a novel type of asset called a "bean", and that the rest of the message is the

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 1917

2008-04-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Josiah Worcester wrote: > On 11:55 Thu 03 Apr , Iammars wrote: >> I judge CFJ 1917 in the following manner: >> { >> The defendant has admitted to being guilty, and in fact has not published a >> notary report last month, so I judge GUILTY. >> } >> >> I sentence em in the f

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal Cases

2008-04-03 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 19:49 Wed 02 Apr , Ed Murphy wrote: > pikhq wrote: > > > I disqualify Agora Nomic from this case. > > > > (Agora Nomic, by rule 2145, is a partnership, and therefore a > > person. I can disqualify any person I damned well want to. Have fun > > judging this one!) > > This fails on multiple

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > To put it in a language and describe it as a custom all Agorans should >> > understand, allowing future specification would be a TEOISIWDTIWDTWPAIAW. >> >> "terrible example of 'I say

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To put it in a language and describe it as a custom all Agorans should > > understand, allowing future specification would be a TEOISIWDTIWDTWPAIAW. > > "terrible example of 'I say I will do, therefore I will do' that will

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: > I'd prefer to legislate that messages take effect at the time they > are processed by the list software. That'd make it the same Received: > header that is significant in each message, and any skew affects everyone > equally. If you propose this, then please annotate it to explai

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Zefram wrote: >> Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at >>> the time date-stamped on that message." >> I'd point at the preceding sentence: >> >> Where the rules define an action that CAN be performed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: > A public message's claim to have been published as of the > time in its Date: header is self-ratifying, Do you expect there to be a lot of such claims? I'd prefer to legislate that messages take effect at the time they are processed by the list software. That'd make

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So my scam only fails if someone accuses me of scamming *before* I > actually do it? No, it follows the normal self-ratification process, unless such a challenge has been made against the publisher (presumably for some

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Zefram wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at >> the time date-stamped on that message." > > I'd point at the preceding sentence: > > Where the rules define an action that CAN be performed "by > announcem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: > When I was registrar, many years ago, I actually used the appropriate > Received: header routinely. As far as I know this is unique among > officeholders. Likely because it requires remembering which Received: header is the appropriate one. Proto-Proposal: When Am I? (AI = 3, p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Zefram
Geoffrey Spear wrote: >Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at >the time date-stamped on that message." I'd point at the preceding sentence: Where the rules define an action that CAN be performed "by announcement", a player performs that action by announci

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ian Kelly
> When I was registrar, many years ago, I actually used the appropriate > Received: header routinely. As far as I know this is unique among > officeholders. I used to do this as well as Promotor and Registrar, until the appropriate Received: header changed. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking at B Nomic Rule 4E7, I also see nothing stopping one from > basing either the scheduled time or the number of repetitions on a > specific quantity that is impractical to compute (e.g. "the private > key corresponding

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread comex
On 4/3/08, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does it allow conditionals as well? Yes. Yes it does.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it exactly that makes post-dated actions invalid? (just curious) Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at the time date-stamped on that message." Forging your date stamp arguably would a