Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread David Hannum
Like Adam, we keep tabs of where the gear is and when we are in the area, we swing by and pick it up. But not sure why you'd not want to rescue good radios. Folks like Wireless Units and Surplus Wireless will purchase it off you, so don't just arbitrarily abandon it. $25 (or whatever they give y

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
$25 for a radio for $10 in gas to pick it up, $10 dealing with the customer, $10 in caulk/silicon, $10 hearing them complain about nothing, $10 in labor costs, $1000 in lost revenue because you wasted time picking up a $25 radio instead of hooking up a new customer On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:01 AM

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Customer would be happy with 200 Mbps for $35. Not gonna happen.Actually still no, because these days they have already switched providers when they call.We are in a rural area. Everybody knows everybody, seems like everybody's related going back generations. My policy is everybody pays the same

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread chuck
If you have spare time, go make the former customer happy. You might get them back if you give them a bit of personal customer service attention. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 11:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have seen articles claiming they are running out of stuff to train LLMs on, and are trying to recursively train them on AI generated content, resulting in a plateau effect. This article references a 1941 short story by Jorge Luis Borges. My dad has a job in Argentina around 1965 and I liv

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread Adam Moffett
About the same. We kept a running list of "pickups" and it would be filler work for the field people. They'd remove the antenna and maybe the cable, but never worried about the POE. We usually got to them pretty quick because we left empty spaces in the schedule for service calls, and if there wer

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Trust but verify? Original Message From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: 11/19/2024 1:00:20 PMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruitingExcept when it makes glaring mistakes like telling it to add 30 to a variable and it divides by 7 instead :/On Tue, Nov 19, 2024

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread David Hannum
And we have Chuck - multiple times . . . On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:14 PM wrote: > If you have spare time, go make the former customer happy. You might get > them back if you give them a bit of personal customer service attention. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2024 11:

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread David Hannum
Josh - I bet your nickname in school was Eeyore . . . On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:00 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > $25 for a radio for $10 in gas to pick it up, $10 dealing with the > customer, $10 in caulk/silicon, $10 hearing them complain about nothing, > $10 in labor costs, $1000 in lost revenue be

Re: [AFMUG] new FCC boss

2024-11-19 Thread Bill Prince
Well, Carr is the actual author of the FCC portion of Project 25, so he's pretty much written what he would intend to do. According to the commentary printed in Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/brendan-carr-trump-fcc-pick-project-2025-chapter-1987413), he would have 4 main priorities: 1. Re

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread Trey Scarborough
My question is what happens when there is no one actually doing the work that the AI bases its information on.  For example I most commonly use it for programming mainly because I am a mediocre coder at best. What I once would post questions on stack overflow or other message boards I now just

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Don't trust, definitely verify. It does a beautiful job at creating the structure. Spaces instead of tabs. It does a decent job of forming but you still need to pound the stakes. On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:16 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Trust but verify? > > Original Message > From: "Josh

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
In my area a few of them would have been bit by dogs, or shot at. Original Message From: chuck@go-mtc.comSent: 11/19/2024 1:14:19 PMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment One year I had all my installers take a full day on Feb 14 to delive

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread chuck
What I took from that article is that I am totally safe. I am not on X or tic toc. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting I have seen articles claiming they are running out of stuff to train L

Re: [AFMUG] new FCC boss

2024-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe we should worry about RFK at HHS.https://www.lightreading.com/regulatory-politics/trump-s-health-secretary-pick-has-said-wireless-tech-might-make-you-sick Original Message From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" Sent: 11/19/2024 1:46:03 AMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sub

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
I think abandoned equipment is a liability, we remove anything not active (or at least try to).. it's low priority work that fills any time in the schedule. -Peter From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, November 18, 2024 9:15 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFM

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
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Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Liability in what sense? From: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 7:11 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Peter Kranz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment I think abandoned equipment is a liability, we remove anything not active (or a

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread chuck
I think coding is a perfect application for AI. Writing prose, not so much. From: Trey Scarborough Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 9:29 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting My question is what happens when there is no one actually doing the work that the AI bases

Re: [AFMUG] new FCC boss

2024-11-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Not the one you were referring to, but this seems quite appropriate for today's climate. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To:

Re: [AFMUG] AI and recruiting

2024-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Except when it makes glaring mistakes like telling it to add 30 to a variable and it divides by 7 instead :/ On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 11:58 AM wrote: > I think coding is a perfect application for AI. Writing prose, not so > much. > > > > *From:* Trey Scarborough > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-19 Thread chuck
One year I had all my installers take a full day on Feb 14 to deliver a rose to every former customer. We got a few back that day. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 11:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment $25 for a radio