Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

The original Net Neutrality had nothing to do with congested upstream or peering ports. Why force your competition to be less bad? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Darin Steffl"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

The 2015 Open Internet Order didn't do even 1/10th of the things attributed to it.  It had nothing to do with congestion, censorship, freedom, service pricing, etc. The rules were no blocking, no throttling, and no paid prioritization.  All three rules had the exception for "reasonable networ

Re: [AFMUG] Small 50lb generator run time

So we picked up the Predator and plugged in a dozen radios and CCR. It ran for 12 hours and had roughly 1/4 tank left. Super quiet, runs 12 hours. Check and check! Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 8:2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

The intent was that an isp couldn't throttle competitor traffic in preference of their own, but in true bureaucratic fashion they purposefully left it vague so it could be reinterpreted at whim. On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:55 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > The 2015 Open Internet Order didn't do even 1/10t

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Has anyone been able to get MTOWP since Oct 8? I'm still waiting on my back order from then. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:35 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I believe white rice has the bran layer remove

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

That's the sort of thing you'd expect from Huffpost or TheOnion. Kind of apropos though. bp On 11/23/2020 7:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Back to the press conference, either Fox News has totally turne

[AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

Anybody do 'Remote hands' Services? Just a body that will go to a location and follow directions. I've had a request for it and I have no idea what to charge. How do Datacenters price it, base Monthly price + time? Is it like $400/month service or a $20/month service? Seems like anything

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

We charge our base labor rate with a 2 hr minimum. $60/hr x 2. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 http://www.brazoswifi.com -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:03 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing Anybody

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

So they get 2 hr per month, or you charge them base 2hr every month then actual time on top of that? On 11/23/2020 11:07 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: We charge our base labor rate with a 2 hr minimum. $60/hr x 2. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 http://www.brazoswifi.com -

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

$150 an hour plus mileage and travel On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: > We charge our base labor rate with a 2 hr minimum. $60/hr x 2. > > Jim Bouse > Owner - Brazos WiFi > 979-999-7000 > http://www.brazoswifi.com > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behal

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/first-person-gop-challengers-we-faced-open-intimidation-detroit https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/first-person-i-was-detroit-poll-challenger-gop-came-make-havoc Two poll challengers in Detroit with different perspectives about what they saw at t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

They should ask Reddit to decide. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/ From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:29 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/first-person-gop-challenger

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

On 11/23/20 9:02 AM, Nate Burke wrote: Anybody do 'Remote hands' Services?  Just a body that will go to a location and follow directions.  I've had a request for it and I have no idea what to charge.  How do Datacenters price it, base Monthly price + time? For colo customers I charge $95/hr

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

We don't charge a retainer fee, just hourly for someone to stand there and plug things in for them. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 http://www.brazoswifi.com -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:08 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

This shit is neverending entertainment. They put the crazy lady up as the lead, then shitcanned her, but she didnt stop and theres no infighting. Pennsylvania is back in play in the courts. Media runs with some judge dismissing something like it's relevant, theyve bending it for 4 years, that's jus

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

The Supremes are going to refuse to get involved; if they are asked, which I'm on the fence about. bp On 11/23/2020 10:06 AM, Steve Jones wrote: This shit is neverending entertainment. They put the crazy lady up as the lead, then s

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Steve, Can you image the carnage if some how, some way Trump comes out on top.  The riots in the streets would be unprecedented. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

"Pennsylvania is back in play in the courts" Hahahahahahahaha ha ah ha. The "appeal" which isn't even an appeal, is a total joke. It is more of a plea, with no grounds in law, to let them go back to the beginning and try again. It will be summarily dismissed and the SC will not take it up. On

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Unless there is a direct constitutional question, scotus has no business being involved. The fact that scotus is even in play is a direct consequense of the decades of judicial politicking On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 12:14 PM Bill Prince wrote: > The Supremes are going to refuse to get involved; if th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Its will be bloody and harsh, that is for sure On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 12:22 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Steve, > > Can you image the carnage if some how, some way Trump comes out on top. > The riots in the streets would be unprecedented. > > > -- > Best regards, > Mark

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

In the transactional world of certain people, I appointed you, so you decide in my favor. I don’t think that works with Supreme Court Justices. They may not be everyone’s favorite judge, but they’re still a judge, not a total buffoon like the “elite strike force” “release the Kraken” lawyers.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

I believe Kavanaugh likes beer. He testified under oath that he does. If he doesn't then he should be recalled for false testimony before Congress. bp On 11/23/2020 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: In th

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

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Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

For 6+ weeks? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 3:12 PM David Coudron wrote: > We have some on back order as well. > > > > *David Coudron* > > david.coud...@advantenon.com | *Mobile: *612-991-7474 >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Ken, I believe it is far fetched that this was some type of coordinated effort to cheat.  I also believe that is is far fetched that the voting machines were tampered with.  Finally, I doubt these recounts are going to change anything. But, I would l

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Since I personally have been voting absentee for well over a decade; in fact I am registered as permanent absentee. I haven't actually walked into an actual polling place in longer than I can remember. So I have a d

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

If this is an urgent need, can you just use pipe-to-pipe clamps and a piece of pipe? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 2:23 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24 For 6+ weeks? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Des

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

i dont believe that protests in over 50 cities organically come to fruition with the same materials, tactics, slogans, etc., i know, its mad to believe that tens of hundreds of people across the nation could coordinate anything of any magnitude. On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 2:25 PM Mark - Myakka Techno

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Covid was a conspiracy: From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 2:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference i dont believe that protests in over 50 cities organically come to fruition with the same materials,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Bill, My daughter just moved to Texas a few weeks ago.  She is in the process of becoming a Texas resident.  She had to register her car in Texas and update her car insurance with her new Texas address.  She received notice from Florida Motor Vehicles

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

theyre not looking to use your balot On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 2:32 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Since I personally have been voting absentee for well over a decade; in > fact I am registered as permanent absentee. I haven't actually walked into > an actual polling place in longer than I can remember.

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

i used to do side work for a remote hnds company, 1099, 15-25 an hour, but it was literal dumb hands, i quit cause it was frustrating. stuff like going to tower sites and hot swapping cards read of the leds and leave, or go tone out a wire, etc. kills you walking away with a fault light on or the c

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

i fucking knew it, my pit has been all sorts of cocky ever since i went remote, strutting around all superior and stuff On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 3:22 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Covid was a conspiracy: > > > > [image: A picture containing diagram Description automatically generated] > > > > *From:* AF

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

It isn't urgent. This is just to fill our stock. I learned a long time ago that I need to have my own storage room of items since a) waiting on items before the job can get started is a joke and b) none of the distributors stock shit Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like politicizing toilet paper. Maybe that’s your answer. Convince half the people to refuse to use TP. Then there will be plenty for us. My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra Pl

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I wonder if places that use bidets look at us like WTF On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like > politicizing toilet paper. > > > > Maybe that’s your answer. Convince half the people to refuse to use TP. > Then

[AFMUG] Dhcp-relay into ospf

Anyone here successfully setup dhcp-relay with ospf so that when the relay adds an address to the pool that address goes out through ospf? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Dhcp-relay into ospf

you want a dhcp client interface to by dynamically added to the routes? youre gonna get yelled at for distributing connected routes i think youd have to have an all interface defines and a 0.0.0.0/0 network if you dont know the subnet that will be assigned if this is part of your osfp routing netw

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders. It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends. But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf. I do understand. But I am still goi

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

burning down their homes might get the point across, especially with winter coming on. It will get cold sleeping in an ash pile On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other > than distributors not placing la

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Apparently you can get conversion attachments pretty cheap. I’m guessing you’d want the warm water version. Cold water doesn’t sound like fun. https://hellotushy.com/products/warm-water-bidet-tushy-spa From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:53 PM To: AnimalF

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

i just dont know, the new cars all have seat warmers and those make me feel really uncomfortable. cold water would keep everything about business On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Apparently you can get conversion attachments pretty cheap. I’m guessing > you’d want the warm wa

[AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-thanksg iving-trump-turkey-20201123-amxs7uh6hvf55ncsrvshjbiioq-story.html Nice hotel room. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference That happens all the time, and people have been known to vote in two places. It's a felony, so good luck to her. Doesn't make it a conspiracy though. but Florida is involved, so there's that. bp On 11/23/2

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

We're cool. We have an approximately 5 month supply. bp On 11/23/2020 3:46 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like politicizing toilet paper.  

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Our cousins in Portola Valley have a conversion. They also have a roll/dispenser on the wall. We stayed there a couple months ago. I did not use the bidet function. bp On 11/23/2020 4:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

[AFMUG] OT: And so the transition begins

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html (CNN) The General Services Administration has informed President-elect Joe Biden that the Trump administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, according to a letter from Administrator Emily Murphy

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And so the transition begins

When do the intelligence leaks begin On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:10 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > > > https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html > > (CNN) The General Services Administration has informed President-elect > Joe Biden that the Trump administration is read

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

I wouldn't put it past him to bring them out basted and a nice golden brown for the ceremony On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 6:36 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-thanksgiving-trump-turkey-20201123-amxs7uh6hvf55ncsrvshjbiioq

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I am seeing a ton of Bidet adverts on the social media threads.. On 11/23/20 3:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I wonder if places that use bidets look at us like WTF On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof > wrote: I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing f

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And so the transition begins

That is such a setup line I can't resist... 4 years ago.. On 11/23/20 5:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote: When do the intelligence leaks begin On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:10 PM Seth Mattinen > wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/ind

[AFMUG] ***SPAM*** starlink details

https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/starlink-update-spacex-talks-mobility-data-caps-geo-locking-space-lasers-and-more/ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** starlink details

H, 100+ watts power consumption (not including the snow melting heater). Maybe not enough to be a big issue, it's not like we never forget to turn off the porch light. In my area, I think it would become a squirrel butt-warming platform, littered with black walnut husks. -Original Messa

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And so the transition begins

As soon as the swamp refills. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > When do the intelligence leaks begin > >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:10 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: >> >> https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** starlink details

That may actually be an issue musk overlooked being in ca. Probably thought about snow and what not but the critters might be an issue On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 9:06 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > H, 100+ watts power consumption (not including the snow melting > heater). > > Maybe not enough to be a big

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And so the transition begins

Looking at the cabinet build, this is just Barry's 3rd term I'm gonna go there and ask if they're gonna put Michelle's urinal back in. On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 10:23 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > As soon as the swamp refills. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Steve Jone

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** starlink details

Why do I think the guy who wanted to sell flamethrowers has something all planned for this "opportunity?" On 11/23/20 8:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote: That may actually be an issue musk overlooked being in ca. Probably thought about snow and what not but the critters might be an issue On Mon, Nov

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** starlink details

Active denial built in. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:02 PM, Robert wrote: > >  Why do I think the guy who wanted to sell flamethrowers has something all > planned for this "opportunity?" > > >> On 11/23/20 8:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >> That may actually be an issue musk ove

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

Datacenters we are in charge around $150 an hour with a one hour minimum.  I'd says they are smart as in they can follow directions and do some simple things for you.  But those are for techs that are already onsite, provide NOC services for the DC and remote hands services for anyone co-located th

[AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

What a let down this was. Turns out tracing is a joke. First off, they dont even make contact with the positive test for 3 to 5 days even though the money was for within 24 hours. So it essentially pointless as far as stopping the spread. They dont ask for much detail, so thes "x infections traced

Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

It doesnt hurt if you're remote hands to not send your least experienced guy. We used to contract doing that stuff when I first started with the partner company. Got sent to a college campus server room to deal with a RAID issue. I didnt know what that was. On the phone with the customers IT dealin