https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/first-person-gop-challengers-we-faced-open-intimidation-detroit
https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/first-person-i-was-detroit-poll-challenger-gop-came-make-havoc
Two poll challengers in Detroit with different perspectives about what
they saw at the exact same polling place.
I do see general agreement on the events though. A volunteer busybody
follows people around and questions everything they do. They get annoyed
and say, "buzz off, talk to my supervisor". The Democratic challenger
says, "the GOP poll challenger was being douchey and asking accusatory
questions. Also racism."
The Republican challenger says "All I did was ask questions and they got
all douchey about it. Also I was intimidated/oppressed."
On 11/23/2020 11:33 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
That's the sort of thing you'd expect from Huffpost or TheOnion.
Kind of apropos though.
bp
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On 11/23/2020 7:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Back to the press conference, either Fox News has totally turned
against DJT, or someone paired the wrong headline and photo.
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The intent was that an isp couldn't throttle competitor traffic in
preference of their own, but in true bureaucratic fashion they
purposefully left it vague so it could be reinterpreted at whim.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:55 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The 2015 Open Internet Order didn't do even 1/10th of the things
attributed to it. It had nothing to do with congestion,
censorship, freedom, service pricing, etc.
The rules were no blocking, no throttling, and no paid
prioritization. All three rules had the exception for
"reasonable network management". Reasonable management was not
specifically defined, but in discussion it was said to be driven
by a technical need rather than a business one. So the blocking
and throttling we all do to make traffic flow properly was ok and
nobody was ever going to pay any of us for prioritization. I've
never been convinced that the rule was necessary. It seemed like
a rule saying ISP's can't build moon rockets....like ok I'll stop
my Apollo project immediately.
The actual rules were trivial to obey and I'd bet almost nobody
here was ever breaking them My only concern was Title II status
could open the door on additional rules that might be more
onerous later.
On 11/23/2020 8:40 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
The original Net Neutrality had nothing to do with congested
upstream or peering ports.
Why force your competition to be less bad?
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*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
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If net neutrality comes back, there will likely be similar
exemptions for ISP's less than 100k subscribers or whatever
the number was before.
It shouldn't affect us in any real way. It will force the big
ISP's to be good (better?) guys and not let peering cross
connects fill up and become congested for example.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 9:45 PM Seth Mattinen
<se...@rollernet.us <mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
On 11/21/20 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> But as amusing as this may be, it might be time to
start looking at how
> the next administration could affect WISPs. Like a 3-2
Dem FCC and a
> new Chairman (woman?). Will Net Neutrality and Title
II return? Does
> it matter?
>
Net neutrality seems likely to make a comeback. Would it
change anything
I do? No, but it might add annoying paperwork. Worst case
someone thinks
I'm doing something and files a formal complaint, which
would waste time
having to answer it.
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