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One other theme which seems to be coming up is the recurring statement that the left spent years trying to prove collusion with Russia. I would argue that it was pretty obvious that Russia at least tried to meddle last time around, and the purpose of the investigation was about figuring out how mu

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*HEAVEN FORBID* we have a robust voter ID system. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via AF" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Cc: "Chuck McCown" Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference

Being a snowflake isn't partisan. I don't think it's even weighted towards one party or another. No doubt there is fraud somewhere. No doubt there are honest mistakes somewhere. Are the above in sufficient numbers to make a difference? Not likely. Did Republicans likely cause the l

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Darin, Trump was not presidential material, that is a fact.  He is a businessman not a politician. He had no idea on how government worked.  He was going in to the job with an outsiders view of politics.  He crashed the Washington wedding and they did

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Mark, If course trump tried to do some things in between tweeting nasty things. Every president does something right. I just wish he had less ego and took more action. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/ The link above

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Trump was never a successful businessman, that is a myth. Mitt yes, Donald no. From: AF On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:03 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Darin, Trump was not presidential m

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Which would be the perfect example of the propaganda that has propped him up for the last 40 years.   Well now the chickens will come home to roost.  He has a billion dollars of loans to renegotiate ( gee guess why he wants to be in charge of the party, access to truckloads of cash ) and the IR

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom freezing

We have student housing where each tenant has a 500mb fiber connection and still get a few complaints about Zoom. On 11/19/2020 10:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m tired of customer calls about Zoom classes freezing.  I don’t get that many of them, but they go on FOREVER, and the customers keep

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Definition of “winner”. Having the attributes of Charley Sheen or Donald Trump. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2020, at 3:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > >  > One other theme which seems to be coming up is the recurring statement that > the left spent years trying to pro

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On 11/20/20 5:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Did Republicans likely cause the loss with their fixation on mail-in voting and other, election-related matters? Most likely. Here in Nevada everyone got a mail in ballot. Then I get bombarded with "never use mail in voting" messages from various Repub

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Darin, Everyone hates you and is suppressing you - Vote Blue Cops just want to shoot you at will - Vote Blue Yeah, I get the picture.  Only educated people vote blue and there is no such thing as left wing conspiracy nuts. At what point did we as

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Haha. Ashton Kutcher 2024? https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/08/18/trump-albany-rally-winning-sot.cnn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipTwjwrQYQ From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:17 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck Mc

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom freezing

Tell them it's because Zoom was fined by the FTC. They're busy fighting the government. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:04 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > We have student housing where each tenant has a

Re: [AFMUG] OT

More like: The game was lost by 8 points.  We're heading home in traffic. Joe Buck comes on the radio announcing the losing team wants a review of the last 5 plays. bp On 11/19/2020 10:06 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Analogy: 2 seconds left in the game. Down by 8 points. Trump. Onsid

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Robert, You guys are right.  He is the Jacques Clouseau of the business world.  Just fumbling and bumbling his way for the past 40 years.  No one has caught on to his secret.  He is just an idiot that luckily is able to get bigger idiots to back him.

[AFMUG] Raspberry Pi 400

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More like, The game was won by 8 points, however the opposing team though it would be a good idea to allow footballs to be mailed to the endzone, then after everyone had left the stadium, footballs just kept arriving.Oh and referees relabeled as judgmental bigots. My only point here

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On 11/20/20 7:52 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: More like, The game was won by 8 points, however the opposing team though it would be a good idea to allow footballs to be mailed to the endzone, then after everyone had left the stadium, footballs just kept arriving.Oh and referees relabele

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Actually the majority of his loans are now public information. Deusche Bank owns them/him.  And the date they come due is also public info.   Yes he will probably renegotiate them or declare bankruptcy.  I guess successful is all in the perception.   I personally like business people who don't

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We know there is some incestuous German lending involved. His finances might get exposed in court. Could be he actually is wearing no pants. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave U

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference We could start a lottery. bp On 11/20/2020 9:10 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: We know there is some incestuous German lending involved.  His

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I don't think anyone really knows for sure what he's worth, and that's part of how it's so easy to build different narratives about it. He seems to have received around $400 million from his parents. About a million from a trust fund and the rest from a variety of revenue streams they set up f

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It would have been a really tough choice between Mitt and Biden for me.  Probably would have crossed to Mitt.  Not that I am necessarily a democrat but I really don't like what the republican congress has become besides Mitt. On 11/20/20 9:15 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I don't think anyone real

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Biden wasn't my first democratic choice due to age but he somehow won the primaries. He will definitely handle the office way better than trump has. If he dies, Kamala will move to the center I think instead of leaning far left. I think in California, being super liberal is expected but I believe f

[AFMUG] OT Sad news

https://physicsworld.com/a/arecibo-observatory-will-be-decommissioned-says-u s-national-science-foundation/ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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Mitt Romney is apparently willing to split from his party when he feels strongly about something.  Whether that means he's a "RINO" or it means he has personal integrity seems to be a matter of opinion.  I'm trying to think of a Democratic legislator who would break with party lines to agree wi

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I saw this yesterday, wish I had made the trip over to that part of the island to see it now. On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:31 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > https://physicsworld.com/a/arecibo-observatory-will-be-decommissioned-says-us-national-science-foundation/ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.

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I've been following that story. A big shame. Maybe they will rebuild it? I have not seen much information on how important it has been. bp On 11/20/2020 9:30 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: https://physicsw

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Good analogy. When the little boy said the emperor had no clothes, it wasn’t because he hated the emperor. The emperor was naked, and the adults either refused to say it or see it. Nixon tried to hide stuff, and we got the saying that it isn’t the crime it’s the coverup. But these days th

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Every politician SHOULD break from their party if they feel a different way about an issue. I don't believe in "falling in line" for everything. Good people think for themselves, not what their party's platform is. I'm fiscally a Republican but for human rights and equality, I'm a Democrat. Repu

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Adam Kinzinger a Republican congressman from the district where my WISP is located is willing to call B.S. when he sees it. I think like many ex military people in politics he is not scared to death of his party and is confident he could find another job if he got primaried or otherwise lost hi

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Darin, And yet here we sit harassing each other while they sit up there in Washington collecting their nice large paychecks, pocketing some lobbying money, having the best healthcare one can get, patting each other on the back and not really doing any

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I believe that many (most?) of them do care. I think they are caught in a system where they are forced to play their tribal roles or risk having no impact. I think that the influence of money in the political system is one of the factors that has led us here. That said, some of them have more inte

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference At this point is it worth the effort to point out that even though everyone (that's a little bit hyperbole, but I'm trying to make a point) is remarking about how the voter turnout for this latest election was in the neighbor

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I agree, I have met with many congressmen and senators in my life. I have worked with them on legislation many times, even got them to sponsor legislation. I cannot say I have ever met a single one that I would characterize as uncaring or overtly personally selfish financially. They are

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Citizens United created a problem. Primaries also create a big problem, whether for “safe” or contested seats. Candidates must cater to the extreme wing of their party or get “primaried” from the fringe. So if each party is 50%, and the extreme left and right are 50% of that, you get the c

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Something that's become painfully obvious to me is that there are a huge number of "norms" in the way that our government works, or pretends to work. When someone steps outside of the "norms" and starts doing what's not explicitly spelled out, a bunch of observers

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I agree with that. I do not in any way see how a corporation can be considered "people". Doesn't that give the constituents behind a corporation outsized influence (because corporations are made of people who theoretically represent themselves)? The way it is now (p

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Repeal citizens united. It's pretty simple really, it has to become a headline issue though. On Friday, November 20, 2020, Bill Prince wrote: > I agree with that. I do not in any way see how a corporation can be > considered "people". Doesn't that give the constituents behind a > corporation out

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Yep, that's the truth. At this point its all Bread and Circus's... Trump was a major Circus, Biden will be a minor Circus.. Except the virus. That's real... On 11/20/2020 10:40 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Darin, And yet here we sit harassing each other while they sit up there in

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I think the way lobbying works needs a full overhaul as well. On Friday, November 20, 2020, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Repeal citizens united. It's pretty simple really, it has to become a > headline issue though. > > On Friday, November 20, 2020, Bill Prince wrot

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As a matter of semantics and law. Corporations are people. They pay taxes, they have rights, essentially all the constitutional rights. Other than having a heartbeat, in a lawsuit or contract if you did not already know, the other party could be human or a paper entity and you would never kno

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But Corporations can't and shouldn't be allowed to vote. So they shouldn't be able to contribute. They also cannot go to jail. Like PG&E should have. On 11/20/2020 11:29 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: As a matter of semantics and law. Corporations are people. They pay taxes, they have ri

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So if Joe Corp sits on the boards of 5 corporations, he gets a voice as a citizen, and also 5 more times as a member of those boards? Does that seem fair or right? bp On 11/20/2020 11:29 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

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Ahem from a Utah Republican.. - "It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American President," said U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, the 2012 GOP nominee for president. On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 6:15 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Not interesting. And yes,

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Yeah, I wish Mitt had run against Trump. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 2:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference Ahem from a Utah Republican.. * "It is difficul

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I never said corps should get to vote. Just that they are treated as people in most aspects of the law. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 1:10 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference So if Joe

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Mitt is the new John McCain. One of the few Republicans with a spine and willing to say what he thinks instead of bowing to the so-called leaders. I have more respect for him now than I have in the past. bp On 11/20/2020 1:26 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna identity

The spikey thing? That's lightening protection. One of our Towers had an FM Transmitter on it. The owner installed these, and they kept tripping the FM Transmitter out because they were grounding out so much energy. They had to take the off of the tower. On 11/20/2020 4:15 PM, Christopher

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna identity

I don't believe that is an antenna. I think it might be some sort of lightning arrester. bp On 11/20/2020 2:15 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote: Can anyone tell me what the heck this antenna is? -- AF mailing list AF@a

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna identity

It's supposed to prevent lightning strikes. Whether or how it works is beyond me.  Some kind of space magic I assume. On 11/20/2020 5:15 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote: Can anyone tell me what the heck this antenna is? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af

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But they can't go to jail or face the death penalty, so they aren't people. And should not have any of the rights of people. Do the crime pay the time. Again PG&E _killed_ 88 people through negligence paying a billion or 50 billion dollars doesn't make up for that. And the bankruptcy hurt

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna identity

Creates way more paths to bleed off the massive collection of charge, hopefully creating less potential difference to create the charge path for the bolt... i.e. a diffuse cloud of charge instead of a spike.. On 11/20/2020 03:03 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: It's supposed to prevent lightning stri

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Are you sure that's not space magic? On 11/20/2020 6:26 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Creates way more paths to bleed off the massive collection of charge, hopefully creating less potential difference to create the charge path for the bolt...   i.e.  a diffuse cloud of charge instead of a spike..

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Absolutely not sure... On 11/20/2020 03:28 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Are you sure that's not space magic? On 11/20/2020 6:26 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Creates way more paths to bleed off the massive collection of charge, hopefully creating less potential difference to create the charge path for

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Lol.  I appreciate that we can be honest with each other in this group. On 11/20/2020 6:47 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Absolutely not sure... On 11/20/2020 03:28 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Are you sure that's not space magic? On 11/20/2020 6:26 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Creates way more paths to b

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It does leak charge. You can actually put a mA meter in line with one during t storms and watch the current build. Then you hear the thunder and all the current goes away for awhile. I have heard the corona discharge build off of pointy things when on a mountain top comm site during a storm.

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So it would also make sense that a lot of antennas grouped together might also get benefit from this action as long as one isn't the obviously taller one? On 11/20/2020 03:52 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: It does leak charge. You can actually put a mA meter in line with one during t storms a

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna identity

Depends on how pointy they are. Static Cats were all the rage 30+ years ago. Not sure if they are still popular or not. Have not seen one for years. -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:03 PM To: af@

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna identity

It thought it was called a static cat (maybe staticat?), but when I google that, I get things like this: https://cheezburger.com/template/9961922 Maybe this: http://www.nottltd.com/lightning.html -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:49

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From the Wikipedia article on the Citizens United court decision and the dissent written by Justice Stevens. (Also interesting the decision overturned part of a campaign reform act sponsored by John McCain and Russ Feingold. How's that for reaching across the aisle?) Stevens argued that the u

Re: [AFMUG] Small 50lb generator run time

I just came across this on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Baja-900-Watt-Propane-Inverter-Generator/dp/B083VS1N2M Price seems almost too good. No Regulator either? We had a couple of the tiny 900w gas powered (generac branded) generators, but the electronics failed after about 10 hours of use. W

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You are aware that gridlock was the design specification. If all parties cannot come to an amicable arrangement, nothing changes, as designed, keeps the field level. It had little to do with slavery, much like the civil war. It had to do with the experimental government that's designed to capsize

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sad news

There was some system that just got back in communication from a repair to this, dont recall what it was. I dont understand why these things dont get rebuilt with current technology when they suffer catastrophic failures. Maybe starlink will buy it so they can talk to the space car On Fri, Nov 20,

Re: [AFMUG] OT

Truth is a hard pill for many to swallow. Actual truth is, stop arguing over whether an instant replay is allowed, do it, and move on On Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 9:56 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 11/20/20 7:52 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: > > More like, The game was won by 8 points, however the opposing

Re: [AFMUG] Small 50lb generator run time

Looks like a rebranded Ryobi (or visa versa). Ours has been great. Has hundreds of hours on it. > On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:36 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > >  I just came across this on Amazon > https://www.amazon.com/Baja-900-Watt-Propane-Inverter-Generator/dp/B083VS1N2M > Price seems almost too go

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna identity

https://www.lbagroup.com/products/lightning-protection-dissipaters-portable-masts-rods#tower http://www.nottltd.com/lightning.html photograph Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct:+1 (702) 470-2766 > Ken Hohhof > November 20, 2020 at 17:17 > It th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sad news

Steve what you are thinking about is related to the deep space network. The antenna used to connect with Voyager located in Australia had been offline for most of 2020 due to upgrade. Arecibo is not used to communicate with any space craft. https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/03/voyager_2_back_onli

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sad news

Was that antenna busted too? Maybe the article just had a picture of this one in it and that's what got me.confused. On Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 9:45 PM Zach Underwood wrote: > Steve what you are thinking about is related to the deep space network. > The antenna used to connect with Voyager located in

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Now I'm getting pissed and might go full jaime. Hes meeting with 2 states legislatures. Media never tells the truth about him so i dont know, but they say it's to get them to vote contrary to the polls on the electors. I'm fine with everything else they're doing, the only people who fear sunshine h

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Let's hope he's not trying to go that far.  That would be just plain scary.   I was in the same frame of mind when he was elected as Tom Hanks.   "let's give him a chance and see what he does" Unfortunately I am saddened by what we have seen and heard.  And I'm not talking media, but what I hav