Re: [AFMUG] Design consideration

We had a similar situation, but shorter route at 25 miles. I chose to use 10G BiDi optics on each strand. In the future, we can upgrade to 40G BiDi easily. DC has 2 strands leaving. 1st strand stops at hop 1. 2nd strand continues on. 2nd strand stops at hop 2. 1st strand continues on. 1st stra

Re: [AFMUG] SIP trunk providers at IXes?

Proper... DOH wuts dat? LOL On 10/22/20 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Far too many networks have no concept of proper networking. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Design consideration

Are you doing 10G or 100G waves? Are you muxing/demuxing at each site or using OADMs? If you are only doing 10G waves, then you might want to look at other SFP+ vendors, as FS tops out at 80 km. Others have at least 120 km versions, which could potentially allow you to do unamplified spans. Ja

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chile Con Queso over hamburger patty

This is very similar to what we would call a horseshoe around here - it's a regional dish. On Sunday, October 25, 2020, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yum yum > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] RJ11 to Heaphone Adapter

thats it On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 9:07 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > PDM Net > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:36 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> I always made mine with a dpdt to default plug. But the best came from >> florida guy >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 12:20 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >>> Awhile back, S

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Its almost like nobody listened to the science, they clearly said that the natural progression of any novel virus is 3 annual seasons, with this one in particular being predominately in fall. this is season 2. We have treatments now that are effective, we quit killing people with ventilators the wa

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting information. You said that this seems like it’s a joke but then also that you’ve moved everyone who can remote. I disagree we have hospitals that are being overwhelmed right now look at El Paso. This is not going away after the election. > O

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Father-in-Law is an MD in the Lubbock, TX area. Their hospitals are full. On 26 Oct 2020, at 15:20, Matt Hoppes wrote: Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting information. You said that this seems like it’s a joke but then also that you’ve moved everyone who can remote. I disa

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Isn't this year all about conflicting information and more accurately changing information. The one I love right now is the Republicans saying one moment that the democrats want to shut everything down again, and then the next moment saying that the current restrictions are all a political stu

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Utah is overflowing at the hospitals. From: Mike Meluskey Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 1:24 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting Father-in-Law is an MD in the Lubbock, TX area. Their hospitals are full. On 26 Oct 2020, at 15:20

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

One thing that seems to be true is that they have figured out strategies to keep many more people alive than they did during the first peak. If it can be treated, then we can relax a bit until we can get the vaccine. Still, I am more vigilant and locked in than when it first began. At least

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

>From a business standpoint, there are two sides, keeping employees safe, and >keeping customers safe. On the customer side, I really don’t see (again from a business standpoint) how our political, medical, or philosophical opinions matter. If a customer doesn’t want you to smoke in their h

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Snow this morning here too, but it has melted already. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting One thing that seems to be true is that they have figured ou

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

I'm not sure if I've said this publicly on the list or not I figure that I'm going to stay sequestered and away from people until May or June of next year. By then, it should have started to subside, we should have a vaccine available at least to part of the population, and the therapeutics/t

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the data, but here is the HHS data on hospital utilization at the state level (as reported by the states): https://healthdata.gov/dataset/covid-19-reported-patient-impact-and-hospital-capacity-state For example, in FL: state inpatient_beds_utilization inpatient_

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

The thing I am sad is that we had 7+ months to prepare for what is happening now. And it's like we collectively wasted that time bickering. And yes other countries are going into the same situation that thought they were ahead of it, but they are being much more aggressive than we are.W

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Just the front page of the newspapers. They are saying they are maxed out. From: Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:23 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the data, but here is the

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

The news is misleading. Hospitals are not at a 100% capacity because of Covid. They are 100% because sick people have waited way to long to get treatments AND staffing continues to be a serious issue across the country. In fact shortages in staff is a very big problem. More Covid patients ar

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Screw that, I am off to New Zealand... (I wish) -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:25 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting The thing I am sad is that we had 7+ months to prepare for what is happening no

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

From Sept 14 to now new cases have doubled. But over that same time period daily deaths have been flat. To me that is good news. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:25 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

What exactly are other countries doing that the US isn't doing? I simply refuse to believe China, where the virus originated from, has 100k cases in comparison to our 9m. I'm guessing it's in the lack of testing or fictitious numbers. >We are back to a second rate country Not sure what makes yo

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

I gets all my vaccines from Putin From: Tyson Burris Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting The news is misleading. Hospitals are not at a 100% capacity because of Covid. They are 100% becaus

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

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Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Nope, not conflicting at all. Everything we do is not self defeating. We dont do things that are unnecessarily risky (biggest risk being time off work). Remote benefits the company and the employee, our coffee and bottled water costs are way down. Hospital census october through march are always a

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

My daughter, who was a trauma ICU nurse at Lubbock UMC, says they do that every year about this time. They start limiting transfers from other areas to make room for winter ailment cases. She says if it wasn't COVID it would be Flu, Pneumonia, whatever. Happens every year, except this year, of cour

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

I got a text from my daughter yesterday, she was not happy that POTUS paid a campaign visit to Tweworgy's apple orchard about 5 minutes from where she lives, and some 1000 people flocked to the farm with no masks or distancing. Her comment "so disappointing just as our numbers got so low, hopef

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

I have a good friend that was in NZ in January. He left. I thought he had it so together to have thought to be there then staying long term with friends... Turns out he was just visiting... Alas, he's in the same boat now as the rest of us... Yes he regrets leaving... On 10/26/2020 01:3

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

+1. There are a few places (besides El Paso) that are running into capacity limits for beds. Most of them (that I've read about) are making emergency facilities from larger, unused public buildings where they can set up beds. It's true that we've learned that

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Considering the farm would have been the one who approved it, it's a non issue. I find it humorous how utterly disgusted and angry peille get over anything 5he bad orange man does, but teens of thousands of peolle flocking into the streets and forcefully interacting with people who dont want to be

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

For the month of October, there have been more cases in the US Whitehouse than the whole country of new Zealand. The difference is that they (NZ) took the thing seriously as opposed to politicizing it like the nimrods in the whitehouse. bp On 10/26/2020 2:01 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I hav

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

We are on a curfew watch and stay at home order fucking selfish people out at bars and restaurants, home parties... My son was in New Zealand for three months... they had their shit together. On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 1:21 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflict

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Wearing masks. To be fair about it, they had significant experience with SARS COV (Not SARS COV2) and since then mask wearing was already pretty prevalent. Countries that dealt with SARS COV have done drastically better with SARS COV2. It is becoming more and more clear that most of the other cra

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Odd, I didnt know there were over 100 cases in the whitehouse On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 4:07 PM Bill Prince wrote: > For the month of October, there have been more cases in the US > Whitehouse than the whole country of new Zealand. > > The difference is that they (NZ) took the thing seriously as opp

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Ahhh, "nimrod", a wonderful term that has fallen out of favor. Looking it up, I was surprised to find that Nimrod was in the Bible. Or is this a prank on Wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod I also miss Bugs Bunny saying "what a maroon". -Original Message- From: AF On Beha

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

We spent the last week at Lake Tahoe. Almost everywhere we went mask wearing was near 100%, until Friday, we went to a restaurant for lunch. They had set up booths outdoors with plexiglass dividers and plenty of distance. all the employees wore masks; they even pr

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Hyperbole. We are all immensely familiar with that by now. bp On 10/26/2020 2:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Odd, I didnt know there were over 100 cases in the whitehouse On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 4:07 PM

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Stay safe guys. We have my cousins husband die from it two weeks ago...33 years old . My wife wears N95 masks, gloves, face shields , goggles, full ppe garb at work everydayshe changes out in our back porch, including shoes...we spray them with Lysol...showers as soon as she comes inside home

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Unfortunately attitudes sometimes take a generation to change. When I was young, people smoked everywhere, then they started having designated smoking areas, now smokers are pariahs. Used to be, if your dog pooped on someone else’s lawn, you left it for them to pick up. People used to chew to

[AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

Does anyone here have experience setting up a small / local / community FM radio station? I'm looking to understand the cost and equipment implications of doing so [from a minimalist perspective, I suppose]. I was asked to see if it would be technically possible for our town to do. Thank y

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

Legally? From: cg...@graytechsoftware.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 4:42 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station? Does anyone here have experience setting up a small / local / community FM radio station? I’m looking to unders

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

I sure do not miss overseas flights that allowed smoking. That was awful and I used to smoke. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 4:16 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting Unfortunately attitudes sometimes take a g

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

Pirate radio lives On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 4:43 PM wrote: > Does anyone here have experience setting up a small / local / community FM > radio station? > > > > I’m looking to understand the cost and equipment implications of doing so > [from a minimalist perspective, I suppose]. I was asked to see

[AFMUG] winter coat

I guess I had done some searches for a winter coat, but decided the old one with the flaky zipper would have to last another season. The Internet decided to show me an ad for this. I hope this isn't predictive of the winter we are about to have, the advertising algorithms are supposed to be al

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

My reaction was unless you are targeting people in their cars, it might make more sense to go straight to Internet radio. Otherwise it sounds like deciding to open a Blockbuster franchise in 2020. I typed a search into Google and the first thing to pop up was: https://citrus3.com/ Fr

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/lpfm From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 5:02 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station? My reaction was unless you are targeting people in their cars, it might make more sense to go straig

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

And the people who would throw lit cigarettes out their car window. Or drop them on the carpet at places like theaters and put them out with their heel. Remember cars with “wing windows”? My dad thought those were invented for pipe smokers. But there’s the seduction scene in The Graduate

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

The community group trying to do it specifically wants to try for broadcast. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 7:03 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station? My reaction was unless you are targeti

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

We are looking to do it legally. I’ll see how straightforward the rules are. I was hoping that talking to someone who has done it would reveal more than the fcc docs. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 7:11 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

You are going to need a license, if you can get one. Depends on how congested things are in your area. Just fill out the LPFM application and take it a step at a time. Transmitters are not terribly expensive. Transmitter, antenna, program source. From: cg...@graytechsoftware.com Sent: Mo

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Ken- i have said it so many times... Covid 19 cannot be solved without solving the common cold. Take it to the bank or call me liar. Both will be resolved at the same time. The stock I hold thinks Covid 19 shots will the the same as flu shots. Best guess on strain. Tyson Burris, President Inte

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

We have a small community radio station that is on our network. We provide them service over which they stream their service to their transmitter. So I don't have direct knowledge of what they had to do, but I can send them your information in case they might send y

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

My partner Jay Fuller has one. He'll see the email soon. cg...@graytechsoftware.com wrote: Does anyone here have experience setting up a small / local / community FM radio station? I’m looking to understand the cost and equipment implications of doing so [from a minimalist perspective, I s

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Aircraft maintenance people loved smokers.  Turned out the tar used to follow leaks and point right to the a/c needed work... On 10/26/20 3:51 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I sure do not miss overseas flights that allowed smoking.  That was awful and I used to smoke. *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Mo

Re: [AFMUG] winter coat

That looks like it would be a nice ice fishing suit On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I guess I had done some searches for a winter coat, but decided the old > one with the flaky zipper would have to last another season. > > > > The Internet decided to show me an ad for this. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Local / Community FM Radio Station?

lots of info in these two LPFM groups https://www.prometheusradio.org http://commonfrequency.org/ On Monday, October 26, 2020 cgray wrote: Does anyone here have experience setting up a small / local / community FM radio station?   I’m looking to understand the cost and equipment implica

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

Mine changes in the garage. Showers when she gets in, bag of clothes gets rotated into laundry once a week. On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 4:46 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Stay safe guys. We have my cousins husband die from it two weeks ago...33 > years old . > My wife wears N95 masks, gloves, face shiel

Re: [AFMUG] winter coat

Go heated https://www.homedepot.com/b/Clothing-Footwear-Workwear-Heated-Clothing-Gear-Heated-Jackets/Milwaukee/Mens/N-5yc1vZcerjZzvZ1z189xh On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:20 AM Steve Jones wrote: > That looks like it would be a nice ice fishing suit > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof wr

Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting

I read that cabin pressure was maintained by air being forced into an intake at the front of the plane and a pressure relief valve at the rear.   Cigarette tar would make the pressure valve sticky, and (so the writer alleged) that's why you used to get more ear popping in the past. On 10/26/2