What exactly are other countries doing that the US isn't doing? I simply refuse to believe China, where the virus originated from, has 100k cases in comparison to our 9m. I'm guessing it's in the lack of testing or fictitious numbers.
>We are back to a second rate country Not sure what makes you feel that way, but OK. You're entitled to your opinion (because this is the United States :). Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > The thing I am sad is that we had 7+ months to prepare for what is > happening now. And it's like we collectively wasted that time > bickering. And yes other countries are going into the same situation > that thought they were ahead of it, but they are being much more > aggressive than we are. We are back to a second rate country... > > On 10/26/2020 12:33 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > One thing that seems to be true is that they have figured out strategies > > to keep many more people alive than they did during the first peak. If > > it can be treated, then we can relax a bit until we can get the > > vaccine. Still, I am more vigilant and locked in than when it first > began. > > At least we have a world series to watch and at least BYU is playing an > > almost full football schedule. > > Snow this morning at my house too. > > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 1:31 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting > > Utah is overflowing at the hospitals. > > *From:* Mike Meluskey > > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 1:24 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting > > > > Father-in-Law is an MD in the Lubbock, TX area. Their hospitals are full. > > > > On 26 Oct 2020, at 15:20, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > > > Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting information. > > You said that this seems like it’s a joke but then also that you’ve > > moved everyone who can remote. > > I disagree we have hospitals that are being overwhelmed right now > > look at El Paso. This is not going away after the election. > > > >> On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Steve Jones > >> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Its almost like nobody listened to the science, they clearly said > >> that the natural progression of any novel virus is 3 annual > >> seasons, with this one in particular being predominately in fall. > >> this is season 2. We have treatments now that are effective, we > >> quit killing people with ventilators the way were were in the > >> beginning, healthcare isnt overwhelmed and theres no shortage of > >> PPE. We only have 8 days until reporting on this changes to be > >> less terrifying. > >> Healthy people are being exposed, beating it, and innoculated, 3 > >> months permanent, no one knows if this is different thatn 99 > >> percent of other viruses. but of the well over 30 million people > >> who were verified positive via testing and have since recovered, > >> less than 20 globally have been reinfected, so odds are the vast > >> majority are immune. > >> Knowing what we know now, we have permanently moved all positions > >> that can be remote to remote. techs dont go any further than the > >> garage if they dont have to. Its techs choice to mask up and glove > >> up, and as long as they choose to mask up and glove up, it will > >> continue to be there choice. This is only applicable to interiors, > >> theyre not required to mask outside, thats simply ignorant to > >> require and its not "following the science" . ut the tech can > >> choose to do that if they want. hell, if they want to wear a > >> condom all day, its none of our concern. > >> Our state positivity numbers are a joke, they simply base it on > >> the percentage of total tests that are positive, its gotten > >> colder, so people arent getting tested on a whim and we are back > >> to primarily people with risk factors getting tested, the > >> positivity rate went up as would be expected, but not as high as > >> anticipated. > >> If legitimate numbers start going up like hospitalizations > >> (luckily I have ins in healthcare so i dont have to rely on media > >> reports and politically charged public health departments, i am > >> privy to internal census reports in healthcare) then we will look > >> toward lower contact solutions, and no contact if our coverage > >> area sees a legitimate surge. > >> We dont do stupid stuff, like my contractor who was infected, we > >> cancelled him for his quarantine period. We dont have in person > >> company meetings. When we are together on project work we dont > >> ride in the same vehicle, we just dont take any unnecessary risk, > >> but we also dont let risk avoidance unnecessarily impact operations. > >> I quit worrying about exposures with the wife working in a > >> hospital, we are exposed constantly. (the low incidence of > >> healthcare transmission is an oddity that after the politics of > >> this thing are over I hope they do some deep diving into, its > >> either going to boil down to we still dont actually know how its > >> primarily transmitting or healthcare has such a high incidence of > >> low viral load exposures that theyr innoculated without actually > >> catching it, similar to how some allergies can be beaten through > >> very low dose exposures to the allergen, will be interesting > >> research when the politics of it are over) > >> Every single "look at this country, look at that country" has > >> turned out to be wrong on both sides of the argument, even WHO > >> says lockdowns are the wrong solution now. > >> Im still waiting for the fed money that went out to put a bunch of > >> people in prison, even in this industry there will probably be > >> some prison sentences handed out, the money came with > >> requirements, it wasnt just free cash to grow a company. > >> I can tell you there is something going around thats causing chest > >> xrays to look exactly like covid damage, but no testing method is > >> identifying the presence of covid or history of its presence, > >> thats concerning, keep that in mind when relaxing policies. Its > >> flu season, and given the disruption of interaction, this years > >> flu vaccine is not going to very effective, its worth keeping > >> covid policies in place regardless to not have staff out with a > >> wild flu. > >> And remember, the media frenzy is only just beginning its 8 days > >> of hell, > >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:40 PM Jaime Solorza > >> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> We are so bad we were featured on ABC News.... people just > >> want to fucking party... > >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:25 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Numbers here in Illinois are bad again today, all we can > >> say is “at least we’re not Wisconsin”.____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> I no longer roll my eyes at my daughter choosing to live > >> in Maine, where “social distancing” was already the norm. > >> (bike photo was actually from a ride a month ago up to the > >> Quebec border)____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jaime > >> Solorza > >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:17 PM > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and > >> counting____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> On Thursday our techs had to stop wiring up panel and > >> stuff because two electricians would wear masks...I wasn't > >> there , I would have made them step outside ...our boss > >> complained to water utilities because we are on a schedule > >> with several people. ____ > >> > >> The control room is small. ____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 10:19 AM Matt Hoppes > >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:____ > >> > >> We are doing normal installs for now. Watching our > >> local county info in internal tracking systems I > >> developed. ____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> So far we’re staying fairly isolated. If things > >> severely spike this winter we will shut down installs > >> again. ____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> At this point we are not masking nor requiring > >> customers to wear masks - but we do ask customers to > >> stay 10feet away from techs. This point will be driven > >> home even more as we go into the winter months. ____ > >> > >> > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> On Oct 24, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof > >> <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> So 8 months in, numbers are getting worse not > >> better, and despite what anybody says the end is > >> not just around the corner.____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> I remember at the beginning some WISPs were not > >> sending techs inside customer homes, maybe pushing > >> a cable through the wall and having the customer > >> plug in the POE and router. Is anybody still > >> declining to do inside work? Installs, repairs?____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> Also, what about the FCC requested “pledge” not to > >> disconnect customers for nonpayment during the > >> pandemic. How many are still doing that, and > >> assuming things won’t be back to “normal” until > >> well into 2021 or even 2022, how long do you plan > >> to continue? Are you taking any additional steps, > >> like downgrading their speed or declining to do > >> upgrades, or requiring proof of hardship? I know > >> this wasn’t mandatory, but if we did it > >> voluntarily, should there be a time limit? And if > >> at that point they are 6-12 months behind, do we > >> write that off rather than expecting they will > >> catch up?____ > >> > >> ____ > >> > >> It’s also interesting I see on cable company > >> forums issues about mask refusal, both by techs > >> and customers, and even of customers who have > >> Covid but still want their Internet fixed. I > >> hesitate to bring this up because it has become a > >> political or “freedom” issue in a way that > >> seatbelts or smoking or wearing a yellow vest at a > >> grain elevator or even picking up after your dog > >> isn’t, and I’m tired of being caught in the > >> middle. But take the extreme case of a customer > >> who recently tested positive or the tech gets > >> there and strongly suspects someone in the house > >> is contagious, is this really happening, and what > >> is your response? At the beginning I would ask > >> when setting up every appointment, has anyone in > >> the house tested positive, but I’ve come to > >> believe that’s pointless.____ > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com____ > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com____ > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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