Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after all that was who they were paying dues to to protect them in the workplace. Apparentl the union did a pretty crappy job. Mark > On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard wrote: > > Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapte

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow who died. He was the union Chief Steward……. Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just seems to assume that he contracted COVID at work. What if he got it somewhere else and he was the one that brought it to that pla

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

that would be awesome if tracing showed that and then the company, and every other person he infected turned around and sued his greedy family into oblivion On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:08 AM James Howard wrote: > In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow who died. > He was th

Re: [AFMUG] CPI certified installer in TN

I did my CPI training through Coursera for I think $500.  It was either $499 or $599. The CPI is personally responsible for the accuracy of data entered into the SAS, but no they don't have to be on site for the install.  It's sufficient to get data from the installer.  In the course, they su

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

And the ambulance chasing attorney that probably talked them into doing it…… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:11 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability that would be awesome if tracing showed tha

[AFMUG] Looking for a tower building crew for a quote

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Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

This is an area where I think we would do well to consider how other countries do this.  My understanding is that civil cases in England put much more of the burden of proof on the plaintiff, and that the loser pays legal bills. So you don't sue a company unless you either (A) Know with very hi

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

But also eliminate the cases that should (morally) be filed and can't due to risk, ie lack of evidence. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:21 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > This is an area where I think we would d

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a tower building crew for a quote

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Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

In what circumstance would you have a moral imperative to file an un-provable claim?  What does that even accomplish? On 5/11/2020 10:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: But also eliminate the cases that should (morally) be filed and can't due to risk, ie lack of evidence. Josh Luthman Office: 937-55

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Rape. It would accomplish a rapist being sentenced. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > In what circumstance would you have a moral imperative to file an > un-provable claim? Wha

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Some people have suggested the spread at meat packing plants (which are disinfected daily in the normal course of business) may actually be occurring outside the plants, due to things like communal housing. This is a claim rife with social, economic and racial prejudice. Yet I think it has mer

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

That's a criminal offense.  I'm talking about civil cases. On 5/11/2020 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Rape.  It would accomplish a rapist being sentenced. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Adam Moffe

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Im going to go out on a limb and say these plants probably do not use E Verify. We have a case going where two kids broke in to rob a house, homeowner shot and killed one of them, the one that didnt die is charged with murder because a death occurred during the commission of a crime. So say these

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Regardless of how the infection got into the plant, someone had to have brought it in in the first place. It would then be necessary to trace it backward to find out who, and how that person got it. The close proximity of people increases the likelihood of spr

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

So one burglar is charged with murdering the second burglar who was shot by the homeowner?  Am I following that correctly? That doesn't seem logical. On 5/11/2020 10:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Im going to go out on a limb and say these plants probably do not use E Verify.  We have a case going

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

https://jsberrylaw.com/blog/the-difference-between-civil-sexual-assault-and-criminal-sexual-assault/ Think it can be both, but there are plenty of examples of certainly civil cases where there is lack of evidence. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Tro

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

yep https://wgntv.com/news/homeowner-fatally-shoots-intruder-second-intruder-charged-with-murder/ the crime resulted in a death On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > So one burglar is charged with murdering the second burglar who was shot > by the homeowner? Am I following tha

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Yep. In a lot of states if your criminal accomplice is killed in the commission of a crime the surviving criminal can be charged with murder. Adam Moffett wrote: So one burglar is charged with murdering the second burglar who was shot by the homeowner? Am I following that correctly? That do

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a tower building crew for a quote

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Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Well, I at least try to be civil when performing sexual assaults... From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability https://jsberrylaw.com/blog/the-difference-between-civil-sexual-assault-and-criminal-sexual-assault

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

it really is the right thing to do. she is going through a traumatic experience and being uncivil is downright rude On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:22 AM wrote: > Well, I at least try to be civil when performing sexual assaults... > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM > *To:

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

The only way I could understand that is if one burglar coerced the other into the dangerous situation.  Otherwise I feel like they are each responsible for their own actions.   I don't understand how our courts could justify this policy. On 5/11/2020 11:15 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Yep. In a lot

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

its pretty simple. A death occurred as a result of the commission of the crime. had the crime not been committed, the specific death would never have occurred. I like motivators not to do crime On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:34 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > The only way I could understand that is if one

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

It is not justice in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case for manslaughter, but not murder. Murder requires premeditation. bp On 5/11/2020 8:05 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: So one burglar is charged with murdering the second burgl

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

no it doesnt On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:25 AM Bill Prince wrote: > It is not justice in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case for > manslaughter, but not murder. Murder requires premeditation. > > > bp > > > > On 5/11/2020 8:05 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > So one burglar is charged with mu

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

This isn't a universal thing.  In Bill's state, murder requires "Malice aforethought" On 5/11/2020 12:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote: no it doesnt On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:25 AM Bill Prince > wrote: It is not justice in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Chuck never said she…… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability it really is the right thing to do. she is going through a traumatic experience and being unciv

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

I would presume California has something similar to 2nd and 3rd degree murder. I think Sirhan Sirhan got 3rd degree murder in California. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:51 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability This isn't a universal thing. In Bill's

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

B B... From: James Howard Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:57 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability Chuck never said she…… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Micr

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Just gotta be careful about assuming things….. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability B B... From: James Howard Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:57 A

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/california-law/california-involuntary-manslaughter-laws.html bp On 5/11/2020 11:09 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I would presume California has something similar to 2nd and 3rd de

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

“Thing” is not the appropriate gender neutral pronoun. From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:22 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability Just gotta be careful about assuming things….. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

You gotta get them young, before they turn... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability Oink Oink? I thought we turned sheep into pigs around here. On 5/11/2020 2:11 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: B B... From: Ja

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Boy, that went downhill fast... From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability You gotta get them young, before they turn... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

And don’t forget to wear a mask….. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability You gotta get them young, before they turn... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, M

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

It was like were on skis. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability Boy, that went downhill fast... From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monda

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

degenerates I tell ya On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:38 PM James Howard wrote: > It was like were on skis. > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 1:36 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Yeah. what’s wrong with those guys? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability degenerates I tell ya On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:38 PM James Howard mailto:ja...@l

Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Ya'll are a bunch of pigs. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004 https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com