Im going to go out on a limb and say these plants probably do not use E
Verify.  We have a case going where two kids broke in to rob a house,
homeowner shot and killed one of them, the one that didnt die is charged
with murder because a death occurred during the commission of a crime. So
say these plant are committing the crime of hiring undocumented, and a
death occurred, then maybe the company leadership could be held criminally
liable. would be interesting to see
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Some people have suggested the spread at meat packing plants (which are
> disinfected daily in the normal course of business) may actually be
> occurring outside the plants, due to things like communal housing.  This is
> a claim rife with social, economic and racial prejudice.  Yet I think it
> has merit.  Which probably means I’m prejudiced.
>
>
>
> I would like to think the companies are implementing major changes in
> changing areas, bathrooms, lunchrooms, entrances and exits, etc, not just
> distancing on the production lines.  But I would also like to hear that the
> companies or towns or states or somebody is setting up places for infected
> workers to isolate rather than just go home and infect their families and
> neighbors.  Or maybe setup some kind of temporary housing to cut the spread
> outside the plants.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *James Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:08 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>
>
>
> In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow who died.
> He was the union Chief Steward…….
>
>
>
> Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just seems to assume
> that he contracted COVID at work.  What if he got it somewhere else and he
> was the one that brought it to that plant and spread it?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>
>
>
> Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after all that was
> who they were paying dues to to protect them in the workplace.   Apparentl
> the union did a pretty crappy job.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of the United Food and
> Commercial Workers Union.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>
>
>
> A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>
>
>
> And so it begins.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Only for ugly people.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
> 
>
> There are 2 separate issues. Having the government tell everyone they must
> wear a mask is one thing.  A business requiring customers wear a mask to
> enter their store is another.  The second actually correlates to your
> example and is certainly the right of any business to put certain
> requirements on using their facility (within lawful limits of course).  If
> people don’t want to abide by their requirements, they are free to go
> somewhere else or stay home if no one will let them in their place of
> business.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, I assume that it will eventually come before the
> Supreme Court to decide if it is a violation of some “right” or other to be
> told that everyone is required to wear a mask in public.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:53 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; Steve Jones <
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
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>
>
> To those saying "why should I have to wear a mask when in public".... do
> you also complain about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"?
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