In what circumstance would you have a moral imperative to file an un-provable claim?  What does that even accomplish?

On 5/11/2020 10:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
But also eliminate the cases that should (morally) be filed and can't due to risk, ie lack of evidence.

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On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:21 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    This is an area where I think we would do well to consider how
    other countries do this.  My understanding is that civil cases in
    England put much more of the burden of proof on the plaintiff, and
    that the loser pays legal bills. So you don't sue a company unless
    you either (A) Know with very high certainty that you'll win, or
    (B) are willing to pay the company's lawyers when you lose.

    This would seem to pretty much eliminate frivolous "ambulance
    chasing" and slap suits.


    On 5/11/2020 10:15 AM, James Howard wrote:

    And the ambulance chasing attorney that probably talked them into
    doing it……

    *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
    *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:11 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

    that would be awesome if tracing showed that and then the
    company, and every other person he infected turned around and
    sued his greedy family into oblivion

    On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:08 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net
    <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:

        In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the
        fellow who died.  He was the union Chief Steward…….

        Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just
        seems to assume that he contracted COVID at work.  What if he
        got it somewhere else and he was the one that brought it to
        that plant and spread it?

        *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
        *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

        Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after
        all that was who they were paying dues to to protect them in
        the workplace.   Apparentl the union did a pretty crappy job.

        Mark

            On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard
            <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:

            Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of
            the United Food and Commercial Workers Union.

            *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
            *Ken Hohhof
            *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM
            *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

            A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse?

            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
            *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

            And so it begins.

            
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit

                On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown
                <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                Only for ugly people.

                Sent from my iPhone

                    On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard
                    <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>>
                    wrote:

                    

                    There are 2 separate issues. Having the
                    government tell everyone they must wear a mask is
                    one thing.  A business requiring customers wear a
                    mask to enter their store is another.  The second
                    actually correlates to your example and is
                    certainly the right of any business to put
                    certain requirements on using their facility
                    (within lawful limits of course). If people don’t
                    want to abide by their requirements, they are
                    free to go somewhere else or stay home if no one
                    will let them in their place of business.

                    On the other hand, I assume that it will
                    eventually come before the Supreme Court to
                    decide if it is a violation of some “right” or
                    other to be told that everyone is required to
                    wear a mask in public.

                    *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On
                    Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
                    *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:53 PM
                    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                    <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Steve
                    Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

                    To those saying "why should I have to wear a mask
                    when in public".... do
                    you also complain about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No
                    Service"?

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