Well, I at least try to be civil when performing sexual assaults...

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

https://jsberrylaw.com/blog/the-difference-between-civil-sexual-assault-and-criminal-sexual-assault/


Think it can be both, but there are plenty of examples of certainly civil cases 
where there is lack of evidence.

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:42 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

  That's a criminal offense.  I'm talking about civil cases.


  On 5/11/2020 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

    Rape.  It would accomplish a rapist being sentenced.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
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    On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

      In what circumstance would you have a moral imperative to file an 
un-provable claim?  What does that even accomplish?



      On 5/11/2020 10:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

        But also eliminate the cases that should (morally) be filed and can't 
due to risk, ie lack of evidence.


        Josh Luthman
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        Direct: 937-552-2343
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        On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:21 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

          This is an area where I think we would do well to consider how other 
countries do this.  My understanding is that civil cases in England put much 
more of the burden of proof on the plaintiff, and that the loser pays legal 
bills. So you don't sue a company unless you either (A) Know with very high 
certainty that you'll win, or (B) are willing to pay the company's lawyers when 
you lose.

          This would seem to pretty much eliminate frivolous "ambulance 
chasing" and slap suits.



          On 5/11/2020 10:15 AM, James Howard wrote:

            And the ambulance chasing attorney that probably talked them into 
doing it……



            From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
            Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:11 AM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
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            that would be awesome if tracing showed that and then the company, 
and every other person he infected turned around and sued his greedy family 
into oblivion





            On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:08 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> 
wrote:

              In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow 
who died.  He was the union Chief Steward……. 



              Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just seems to 
assume that he contracted COVID at work.  What if he got it somewhere else and 
he was the one that brought it to that plant and spread it? 







              From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark 
Radabaugh
              Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM
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              Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after all 
that was who they were paying dues to to protect them in the workplace.   
Apparentl the union did a pretty crappy job.



              Mark



                On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> 
wrote:



                Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of the 
United Food and Commercial Workers Union.







                From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
Hohhof
                Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM
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                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability



                A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse?



                From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
                Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM
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                And so it begins. 





                
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit







                  On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
wrote:

                  Only for ugly people.

                  Sent from my iPhone



                    On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard 
<ja...@litewire.net> wrote:

                     

                    There are 2 separate issues. Having the government tell 
everyone they must wear a mask is one thing.  A business requiring customers 
wear a mask to enter their store is another.  The second actually correlates to 
your example and is certainly the right of any business to put certain 
requirements on using their facility (within lawful limits of course).  If 
people don’t want to abide by their requirements, they are free to go somewhere 
else or stay home if no one will let them in their place of business.



                    On the other hand, I assume that it will eventually come 
before the Supreme Court to decide if it is a violation of some “right” or 
other to be told that everyone is required to wear a mask in public.





                    From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt 
Hoppes
                    Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:53 PM
                    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; 
Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
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                    To those saying "why should I have to wear a mask when in 
public".... do 
                    you also complain about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"?

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