Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-19 Thread chuck
Lewis, Are you taking any special measures to be able to prove you used the loan proceeds for approved uses? Kinda hard when they get comingled with other funds in a general checking account. I think we put them in a separate savings account. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 20

Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-19 Thread David Coudron
We are putting the funds in a separate account, but are also assuming we’ll have to produce payroll reports/returns (we use ADP, so that should be easy) and we’ll have to produce invoices and proof of payment for utilities and rent. Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com

[AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread chuck
Sobering to see that we have passed the number of the US servicemen deaths in the Korean war and will probably pass Vietnam before we are done. All in a few short months. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Has anyone come up with a successful strategy for customers who manage to provoke repeated DDoS attacks against them, other than to disconnect their service? I've got one who just got their 3rd strike after 2 previous warnings. In 20 years in this business, I've only had this happen once pr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
I'm not sure that if it just smells like coronavirus that they classified is that. Anybody who stops breathing was obviously subject to coronavirus. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 6:21 PM wrote: > Sobering to see that we have passed the number of the US servicemen deaths > in the Korean war and will prob

Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/19/20 4:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Has anyone come up with a successful strategy for customers who manage to provoke repeated DDoS attacks against them, other than to disconnect their service? I’ve got one who just got their 3rd strike after 2 previous warnings. In 20 years in this busines

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
In Wuhan, the Chinese forcibly separated infected individuals from their families and sent them to isolation wards. We are not doing that, I don't know if any western country is doing that. So I wonder how much of the spread is within families living together. Chris Cuomo tried self-quarantine i

Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Darin Steffl
Say it's happened too many times and disconnect service. Or bill $500 to turn service back on and stay as a customer. He'll learn fast. We had one a week ago and we warned them. Parent said kid gets a little heated playing games but defended them and got mad at us ha. I told them we don't cause t

Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hadn't thought of that, is it feasible? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 6:35 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks On 4/19/20 4:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Has anyone come up with a successful str

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bacon

2020-04-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe this is where all the chicken thighs are going. Says the guy was feeding his tiger 20 pounds of chicken thighs daily. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-425-pound-tiger-living-in-a-harlem-apartment-yes-it-happened/ar-BB12Qw6y Photo of tiger at apartment window is worth 1000 words.

Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
We give 1 warning. Second time. Banned for 1 month. If they sign back up and get a second, banned for 1 year. I haven't had to do a permanent ban yet. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 http://www.brazoswifi.com From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 6:29 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
They don't move to another ISP? Not worried about that, I'd love for it to be someone else's problem. But are you in an area where there is no other viable choice for Internet? From: AF On Behalf Of Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users G

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Steve Jones
a huge amount. tons of articles on just that, multiple dead family members. Bad advice from our state officials in most cases telling people to quarantine at home with their families. too bad. I wish they would have just unleashed fauci, this would be over, he would have blocked all travel, quarant

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep...my friends girlfriend got it, isolated her downstairs...she is getting better but now he is showing symptoms and he is diabetic. He has a huge home with vaulted ceilings...sprayed Lysol all over...took all the PPE measures and still... Both their parents are high risk plus in their 80s, so no

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
I said it before...inept. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 6:55 PM Steve Jones wrote: > a huge amount. tons of articles on just that, multiple dead family > members. Bad advice from our state officials in most cases telling people > to quarantine at home with their families. too bad. > I wish they would ha

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Bill Prince
I heard someone the other day commenting that this many people die in auto accidents. That many auto accidents in 6 weeks?!? At the rate we're going we'll end up with ~~ 300,000 dead in a year. bp On 4/19/2020 4:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Bill Prince
We also did not know enough about it. Two months ago it was generally described as a bad pneumonia.  The common treatment for that is ventilators. The story that's come out the last couple of days is that it's not ventilators, but dialysis machines because many of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
As many as 66,000 die from the flue in the US annually. That might have been a high year. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 9:07 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I heard someone the other day commenting that this many people die in auto > accidents. That many auto accidents in 6 weeks?!? At the rate we're going > we

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Jason McKemie
They are classifying all kinds of things as being kungflu related with no testing to back it up (and in some cases no symptoms). On Sunday, April 19, 2020, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I'm not sure that if it just smells like coronavirus that they classified > is that. Anybody who stops breathing was

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Robert
There is evidence that it effects the blood's ability to carry O2... On 4/19/20 7:10 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We also did not know enough about it. Two months ago it was generally described as a bad pneumonia.  The common treatment for that is ventilators. The story that's come out the last cou

Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/19/20 4:43 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Hadn't thought of that, is it feasible? If it's a console you could block ranges XBL or PSN are using. Blocking PC gaming might be harder. If you want to put the effort into either vs. the easier option of telling the customer they need to find a new ISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread Steve Jones
You cant even imagine inept when you live in a state that's actually managing it. Here in illinois it's a disaster, our governors an utter moron, he knows there's a whole state here, I think, but his only concern is Chicago. If it werent for their new mayor, New York would look like a pony ride. Sh

Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

2020-04-19 Thread Steve Jones
You could put a waivable 30 day suspension in your TOS, for first infraction with a non waivable 30 day suspension for a second within 36 months and 1500 dollar reconnect fee. The first one might have simply been beating some script kiddy in a fornite match. The second needs to hurt. 1500 is relat